Select to expand quoteYara said..
With the Aussie dollar tanking in the last few days against the US$, the whole project might not be worthwhile.
I reckon it was only worth it when the $$ was above 1 to 1.
Although as Frant says, it isn't all about the money.
I once said to an old sailor "He who dies with the most toys wins." He replied a minute late "No John, he who dies with the best memories wins."
He is right.
Select to expand quoteCharriot said..
One Central QLD yacht hire business purchased 40' in U.S. Yacht was shipped on cargo ship.
They belive, it was the most economical way, a few years ago.
is it still apply, when you own boat / car over 5 years before you bring it to here, import duty not apply.
Australia and USA have a trade agreement of some sort for importing boats
So with all this talk of duty and gst in Australia, what about all the countries in between that you visit?
Is there any duty etc then? I guess you just get visas for the time there.
i worked on a 100 million dollar private yacht that travelled. Sometimes we would spend 6+ months somewhere.boat was registered in George Town.
We also came to Australia a few times. Imagine the duty on that ! she was over 5 years old though and the owner who is Australian is a billionaire so money isn't an issue. That being said he doesn't live here and lives in Bermuda To keep the Australian government away from his wealth.
Also don't you need a b1/b2 visa to enter usa by boat?
from memory it wasn't so easy to get.
Select to expand quoteYara said..
With the Aussie dollar tanking in the last few days against the US$, the whole project might not be worthwhile.
The prices of yachts on the West coast USA are still falling as well. It is not about the money so much as buying a boat that you want that is not available locally. Local 65 footer came out as deck cargo. Owner reckons the same boat is now $200,000 cheaper on the West coast. This is a seriously expensive boat of course. For us mere mortals there are plenty of better deals here.
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Buy on the East coast, visit Newport and Rhode Island, New York, Cuba, Jamaica, Panama, Galapagos, French Marquesas, Tuamotus, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Tonga Tapu, Fiji, Minerva Reef, Bay of Islands. Get ripped off by taxi drivers everywhere, get arrested at gunpoint for hitchhiking in the states, meet a bird who wants to sail with you but is too busy running her Forbes 100 rich list company to come, get buzzed by a helicopter gunship playing war games firing live ammo in the sea next to you, dive on your anchor in shark infested waters, meet a seventh day adventist couple emigrating to NZ from SA who took their sails down every night at sunset and went to bed and then left them down on Saturdays amassing a record 42 days at sea on a 3000nm passage, witness a crack French commando team with armed machine guns bail up the boat anchored next to yours on a drug bust, meet a German bloke in Tahiti who overheard that you were going to have a beer (or two or three or four of the 4 litre mini kegs), anchor in the middle of the Pacific ocean on Minerva Reef, enjoy the feeling of making landfall in Bay of Islands after punching through 40 knot headwinds for 2 days, view that ultimate sunset East of Eden.
Then let them tell you its not worth buying in the USA.
Sounds like a great adventure, F Rant.
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frant said..
Buy on the East coast, visit Newport and Rhode Island, New York, Cuba, Jamaica, Panama, Galapagos, French Marquesas, Tuamotus, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Tonga Tapu, Fiji, Minerva Reef, Bay of Islands. Get ripped off by taxi drivers everywhere, get arrested at gunpoint for hitchhiking in the states, meet a bird who wants to sail with you but is too busy running her Forbes 100 rich list company to come, get buzzed by a helicopter gunship playing war games firing live ammo in the sea next to you, dive on your anchor in shark infested waters, meet a seventh day adventist couple emigrating to NZ from SA who took their sails down every night at sunset and went to bed and then left them down on Saturdays amassing a record 42 days at sea on a 3000nm passage, witness a crack French commando team with armed machine guns bail up the boat anchored next to yours on a drug bust, meet a German bloke in Tahiti who overheard that you were going to have a beer (or two or three or four of the 4 litre mini kegs), anchor in the middle of the Pacific ocean on Minerva Reef, enjoy the feeling of making landfall in Bay of Islands after punching through 40 knot headwinds for 2 days, view that ultimate sunset East of Eden.
Then let them tell you its not worth buying in the USA.
Sounds like a great adventure, F Rant.
The best part was the company that I kept. My three sons, eldest 28 second 26 and youngest 15 (at the time). Rec'd a handmade card on my birthday in the middle of the Pacific ocean which read "thanks dad for taking me on the greatest adventure ever. I will remember it all my life".
As far as having a collection of toys my mantra has always been. "He who dies with the most clapped out toys from use wins"
Select to expand quotefrant said..Trav1979 said..
I was hoping to take a route that would see lots of summer and sun and not too many big seas.
Ive been told if I'm not in a rush and sail the right route I could avoid big/dangerous seas by following weather forecasts and not pushing it?
The photograph in my avatar is 500 miles East of Eden on the penultimate sunset but one of my trip. The voyage East to West across the Pacific in the trade wind season is known as the "coconut milk run".
However at some stage of a US delivery trip you either have to cross the Hurricane belt during hurricane season, hole up in a cyclone hole during cyclone season or cop a belting making your way south from the tropics to NZ.
Buy on the East coast, visit Newport and Rhode Island, New York, Cuba, Jamaica, Panama, Galapagos, French Marquesas, Tuamotus, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Tonga Tapu, Fiji, Minerva Reef, Bay of Islands. Get ripped off by taxi drivers everywhere, get arrested at gunpoint for hitchhiking in the states, meet a bird who wants to sail with you but is too busy running her Forbes 100 rich list company to come, get buzzed by a helicopter gunship playing war games firing live ammo in the sea next to you, dive on your anchor in shark infested waters, meet a seventh day adventist couple emigrating to NZ from SA who took their sails down every night at sunset and went to bed and then left them down on Saturdays amassing a record 42 days at sea on a 3000nm passage, witness a crack French commando team with armed machine guns bail up the boat anchored next to yours on a drug bust, meet a German bloke in Tahiti who overheard that you were going to have a beer (or two or three or four of the 4 litre mini kegs), anchor in the middle of the Pacific ocean on Minerva Reef, enjoy the feeling of making landfall in Bay of Islands after punching through 40 knot headwinds for 2 days, view that ultimate sunset East of Eden.
Then let them tell you its not worth buying in the USA.
I personally enjoy reading your posts Frant..... and please don't leave Southace!!! I thought girls were supposed to be the ones to cat fight....lol
Select to expand quotefrant said..DrRog said.. frant said..
Buy on the East coast, visit Newport and Rhode Island, New York, Cuba, Jamaica, Panama, Galapagos, French Marquesas, Tuamotus, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Tonga Tapu, Fiji, Minerva Reef, Bay of Islands. Get ripped off by taxi drivers everywhere, get arrested at gunpoint for hitchhiking in the states, meet a bird who wants to sail with you but is too busy running her Forbes 100 rich list company to come, get buzzed by a helicopter gunship playing war games firing live ammo in the sea next to you, dive on your anchor in shark infested waters, meet a seventh day adventist couple emigrating to NZ from SA who took their sails down every night at sunset and went to bed and then left them down on Saturdays amassing a record 42 days at sea on a 3000nm passage, witness a crack French commando team with armed machine guns bail up the boat anchored next to yours on a drug bust, meet a German bloke in Tahiti who overheard that you were going to have a beer (or two or three or four of the 4 litre mini kegs), anchor in the middle of the Pacific ocean on Minerva Reef, enjoy the feeling of making landfall in Bay of Islands after punching through 40 knot headwinds for 2 days, view that ultimate sunset East of Eden.
Then let them tell you its not worth buying in the USA.
Sounds like a great adventure, F Rant.
The best part was the company that I kept. My three sons, eldest 28 second 26 and youngest 15 (at the time). Rec'd a handmade card on my birthday in the middle of the Pacific ocean which read "thanks dad for taking me on the greatest adventure ever. I will remember it all my life".
As far as having a collection of toys my mantra has always been. "He who dies with the most clapped out toys from use wins"
Nothing better to do in life than making good memories for your kids 
Trav...
I'm way out of your age range, and way under experienced, and stuck in a job that I would have to quit to take on such an adventure....but that sounds like a great adventure.... there aren't many girls on here, but there is a facebook group single sailors searching might help.
Poor old Len... he must have been a character... he left before I came on here but his fame lives on.
He's living the life in Fiji on his stoneware boat writing code and making a motza.
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Hi,
I am new to sailing but have just had a change in my personal circumstances and have the opportunity to fullfil my dream, take some time out and sail a boat from the US back to OZ.
I am looking for someone to come with me.
I am 36 years old. Single and I am an Executive with an international company.
My ideal sailing mate would be my age or younger. With open ocean sailing experience.( a lot more than me)
I will buy the boat and cover most of the expenses.
Please let me know if you are interested or if you have any ideas on how I can get some candidates.
CheersTrav
Maybe you should hijack my romance thread Trav
Select to expand quoteMcNaughtical said...
Poor old Len... he must have been a character... he left before I came on here but his fame lives on.
Len was a dreamer that couldn't be told. He came here for advice, but knew better. It was largely entertaining and I think at one point even Len saw that and probably baited us all.
It all became too much when the entire first page on the sailing forum was topics from Len beating the same drum.
The difference between the Len threads and this one is the original poster of this thread obviously has a brain and can be reasoned with. Len on the other hand was going to end up at the bottom of the ocean.
Select to expand quoteTrav1979 said..
I was hoping to take a route that would see lots of summer and sun and not too many big seas.
Ive been told if I'm not in a rush and sail the right route I could avoid big/dangerous seas by following weather forecasts and not pushing it?
Hi Trav,
How is your plan going? There is a "Down Under Rally" for boats wanting to sail from Us to Oz in a Facebook group, You should be able to find them on facebook.
Cheers
McNaughtical
Select to expand quoteMorningBird said..
Yara said..
With the Aussie dollar tanking in the last few days against the US$, the whole project might not be worthwhile.
I reckon it was only worth it when the $$ was above 1 to 1.
Although as Frant says, it isn't all about the money.
I once said to an old sailor "He who dies with the most toys wins." He replied a minute late "No John, he who dies with the best memories wins."
He is right.
You take nothing with you when you go, neither toys nor memories, so just enjoy life it's the only way to truly win this crazy game of life.
As far as having a collection of toys my mantra has always been. "He who dies with the most clapped out toys from use wins"
But he is still dead.
Try Findacrew on the net for heaps of crew.
I believe I have a way to make it work, first you go to Panama and buy a holding or LLC (limited liability company, for those who didn't know if anyone), then you purchase the yacht for the company and lease the yacht from the company, that way the owner is a Panamanian company and the yacht can ligitimately be registered as a Panamainian registered ship, therefore you forego the need to register it in Australia or pay Australian taxes or registrations on it, whilest you are paying yourself the money for leasing the yacht, of course the yatch would have to spend time out of Australian waters or other laws come into play, but what an excuse to go sailing. Okay now you can all pick apart my idea, please I want to find the flaws.
Flaws, Part IVA of the Income Assessment Act 1936 (Cth) and you just proved the counterfactual by making that post.
And thats before we get to the GST Act and the Crimes Act.
Sorry
Whaaat?
Are we writing in English here?
As far as l know, written and spoken English are miles apart. Or they supposed to be different.
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Flaws, Part IVA of the Income Assessment Act 1936 (Cth) and you just proved the counterfactual by making that post.
And thats before we get to the GST Act and the Crimes Act.
Sorry
You are such a spoil sport Lydia
If it worked I would done it myself, and I say that with the advantage having a certain expertise.
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If it worked I would done it myself, and I say that with the advantage having a certain expertise.
The only expertise. I had was when the Tax man came to audit me and I realized there was a few invoices ,I didn't want him to see .
Lucky for me he needed the bathroom so they disappear real quick 
HG, you know every ATO library has every edition of Trade-a-boat every published.
Rich people own boats and talk about them on threads like these.
Scared yet!!
If this is 'Scheemes to reduce income tax' (177A-177G) then we understand each other. 
The fact is, they are the greatest whores humanity ever known, they would screw anyone for a groat. I should say farthing.
By the way, one could be sure, they are reading this threads too!
