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Created by kiakaha > 9 months ago, 14 Jan 2009
kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
14 Jan 2009 7:58PM
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5 km Paddle Race on the Sunday $1000 PRIZE money

www.noosafestivalofsurfing.com/?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=2&MMN_position=5%3A5


stuartp
QLD, 41 posts
14 Jan 2009 9:40PM
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Does anyone have details on how to enter - do we just turn up and paddle or sign-up somewhere?

I looked at the PDF of entry form and there's no space for the paddle race?

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
15 Jan 2009 8:08AM
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stuartp said...

Does anyone have details on how to enter - do we just turn up and paddle or sign-up somewhere?

I looked at the PDF of entry form and there's no space for the paddle race?


I would just email Alan or call -

Nick Flint
QLD, 4 posts
15 Jan 2009 12:07PM
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What boards are you guys looking at using for this race ?

Piros
QLD, 6992 posts
15 Jan 2009 12:29PM
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The majority Gold Coast male base racers will on Dale Chapman DC16'S .

NewcastleSUP
NSW, 250 posts
15 Jan 2009 5:32PM
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Is it only a race? Or is there a surf event too? $135 for a race seems a bit expensive...

Ben dover
QLD, 504 posts
15 Jan 2009 6:47PM
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Pretty sure the $135 is just for the surfing part of it.

stuartp
QLD, 41 posts
15 Jan 2009 10:24PM
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I just emailed the organiser to clarify what is happening with the 5km race on Sunday, as there are no details on the entry form for that. Will post a response as soon as I get one. Looks like it will run from Noosa Woods across the bar and finish on Main Beach, so flat water and then waves (hopefully).

There is a SUP division in the surfing contest; the $135 rego is for that.

The list of registered entrants in the SUP surfing contest is at www.noosafestivalofsurfing.com/?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=1&MMN_position=4%3A4

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
16 Jan 2009 7:10AM
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Piros said...

The majority Gold Coast male base racers will on Dale Chapman DC16'S .


If the GC boys are going to show up on there DC16's the better check the race rules -

alot of the information will be posted on the net in the coming days but this is what I got from Alan the other day.

......'We are getting a lot of info out to the website over the next few days.

Attached are the SUP rules from the International Surfing Association rulebook.
The surfing is similar to last year.

The racing will use the 12’6” class and rules also in the document. The boards used are expected to be commercially available.

As for the course, there is a Racing Director to be appointed to look after this event. There will be some alternative courses depending on weather and swell conditions. I expect these to be on the website in advance for scrutiny of competitors and then it will narrow down to one selected for the day. You will have to wait on this.

I would just keep an eye out on the web site as the entry form for this will be up soon....

Piros
QLD, 6992 posts
16 Jan 2009 9:07AM
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kiakaha said...

Piros said...

The majority Gold Coast male base racers will on Dale Chapman DC16'S .

If the GC boys are going to show up on there DC16's the better check the race rules -The racing will use the 12’6” class and rules also in the document. The boards used are expected to be commercially available.



Well looks like we're not coming now , why have these boards been excluded when they have raced in every other event in Qld & Nsw why is this event different.......this is doing nothing for the sport.

I know it's hard to please everyone and these events are hard to put together but why exclude a whole division of Sup racing.

NewcastleSUP
NSW, 250 posts
16 Jan 2009 10:22AM
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Here are the ISA rules:


International Surfing Association
3. Stand-up Paddle [SUP] Discipline:



A. STAND UP PADDLE [SUP] SURFING EVENT RULES:



Introduction: SUP surfing is unique and can be done many ways but for competition it is important to set criteria's that set it apart from just long boarding. The paddle is a tool and a big part of the sport therefore it is not just used to help catch a wave, but is necessary as a tool [aid] for riding the waves [similar to a Ski pole when skiing]. Too many times we see great longboarders just catching the wave using the paddle, then ripping into their maneuvers without using the paddle any further in any practical [beneficial to performance] way. Often it is just “held”.


Judging Criteria: A surfer must demonstrate board handling skills in the transition phase [description below] and the surfing phase [description below] of their performance, for it to be considered complete.
A surfer must perform radical controlled maneuvers, using the paddle as a key tool, in the critical sections of a wave with speed, power and flow to maximize scoring potential. Innovative / progressive surfing as well as variety of repertoire [maneuvers], wave negotiation and use of the paddle to increase the intensity of the maneuvers, will all be taken into account when awarding points for SUP surfing.

The SUP surfer who executes these criteria with the maximum degree of difficulty and commitment on the waves will be rewarded with the higher scores.



SUP Scoring Considerations
The judging scale will be 10 points with normal ISA contest rules applying.
The aggregate of the best rides will decide the final score for each surfer and interferences adjudicated according to the ISA Surfing Rulebook.
Good SUP transition time [end of one wave to paddle-in to next one] should be spent standing and paddling with good technique and stable wave negotiation. Kneeling, lying or sitting whilst paddling, unless necessary for safety is regarded as bad SUP form. Note the critical element: To the best of a rider’s ability he / she is expected to stand up on the board at all times throughout the heat, unless the situation of safety dictates otherwise.
Entry into the wave should be by paddling in the standing position to enable the maximum score.
Surfing - average scores for all maneuvers will be allocated unless the paddle is used as a pivot or tool in maneuvers, then power, radical moves, critical sections and degree of difficulty are the deciding factors.
Competitors will start from the beach unless instructed otherwise by the Contest Director.
“Using the paddle”: The paddle is correctly used in SUP surfing to do three main things: it is used in turns as a brace, a pivot, and a force multiplier. A surfer will be scored higher when he uses the paddle in some or all of these three ways to achieve sharper or more powerful turns.
Tricks such as twirling or otherwise using the paddle in a non-functional manner will earn little or no extra score for the surfer.

Traditional long board surfing compared to progressive SUP surfing techniques: Because the paddle allows large SUP boards to be turned with high rates of speed and power, stand-up paddle surfing is deemed to be, at the competition level, a performance-centered branch of surfing, much like conventional shortboarding. Footwork, nose riding and style points will be scored, but this will be done in their relationship to the criteria of degree of difficulty and critical nature of wave positioning.
If a rider cannot sustain the standing position throughout the heat [in transition and surfing], this will be regarded in the same manner as improper use of the paddle and judges will only allocate average scores to his / her performances at best. This fact should be a mandatory part of the contestant’s pre-heat briefing.


Officials Responsibility: As SUP is a new discipline of surfing in terms of competition, it is the responsibility of every Contest Director and Judge to promote the above ideas and criteria, to ensure all competitors develop a standard approach and understanding of what is expected from an elite performer in SUP.


B. STAND UP PADDLE [SUP] RACING REGULATIONS:



a. Race schedule: Organizer’s Responsibility.
A race briefing for competitors is mandatory prior to each race. Within this briefing, course layout / description, event rules, safety issues and competitor questions will be covered.



b. Race Age / Group Categories:
These are flexible according to the event.



c. Race Craft & Specifications:


A. 12’6” Class Board

Maximum length – 12’6”

Maximum width – 33 inches

Fixed Fin, no rudder



B. 14’ Class Board

Maximum length – 14 feet

Maximum width – 30 inches

Minimum weight – 20 lbs [subject to review]

Fixed Fin, no rudder



C. Open Class Board

Minimum length – 14 feet, 1 inch, up to any length?

Rudders allowed



d. General Race Rules [All classes]:



1. Single blade paddle to be used.



2. Rider must be standing at all times while paddling



3. Competitors must follow the designated set course, to be manned by water marshals and rescue staff.



4. The nose of the craft is the designated point for crossing the finish line when determining relative placing.



5. The finish and start lines must be designated by two buoys and legal competitors must have not crossed this line when the starter begins the race.



6. No extraneous aids are allowed. This includes, but is not limited to swim fins, engines, wind catching devices [i.e.: sails, baggy clothing, etc] and personal support teams. No twin hulls allowed (i.e.: catamarans)



7. Wetsuits and hats [sun protection] are permissible.



8. Competitors may be required to have an official mark / race vest and / or race number on their arm, which must remain on the individual throughout the event. No competitor shall be recorded as a finisher unless carrying the official mark / wearing the official vest and number on their arm.



9. Organizers reserve the right to accept, reject and cancel entries.



10. Protests must be made in writing and given to the Race Director within fifteen minutes of the announcement of the provisional results. All decisions of the Race Director will be final.



11. Race officials shall have the ultimate and final authority to remove a competitor from the race if the competitor is judged to be physically incapable of continuing the race without the risk of injury.



12. Each entrant must sign the indemnity declaration on the Entry Form before the event. If under 18, the parent or guardian must sign.



13. The organizers reserve the right to reject or cancel any entry.



e. Race Types:



Three types of events are common in SUP.

A. Surfing performance events will be run to ISA rules.

B. Point to point racing – short and marathon. Ocean and inland waters or a combination of both.

C. Combination events – Usually held on one day with a surfing event in the morning and then a paddle [usually around 2KM] in the early afternoon. Places in each discipline are allocated points and winners are declared in both individual disciplines and overall. These combination events may require riders to use the same board in both disciplines. If so, boards are initialed by the Contest / Race Director.



In surfing performance events there are no restrictions on equipment. All rules to conduct the event are ISA sanctioned and listed in the ISA Official rulebook.



Risk management is a location by location issue for organizers. Racing rules are basic [above] and currently there are no set rules covering tactical /interference issues. Protests will be handled by the Contest / Racing Director based on actual interference and impeding progress, fairness and sportsmanship criteria.



4. Community Based Activities.

Surfing clubs of all disciplines from time to time may have the need to conduct mass surfboard “fun” paddle races [or participation activities] etc that could be used as club and charity fundraiser projects. General rules to control such activities can be drawn from the SUP racing rules section …….. of this rulebook

Piros
QLD, 6992 posts
16 Jan 2009 9:27AM
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Thankyou Simon thats show that are only allowing ONE of the 3 Sup racing catergories.It makes it hard when you fork $3,000 for a race board and you're not allowed to use it.

A. 12’6” Class Board
Maximum length – 12’6”
Maximum width – 33 inches
Fixed Fin, no rudder

B. 14’ Class Board
Maximum length – 14 feet
Maximum width – 30 inches
Minimum weight – 20 lbs [subject to review]
Fixed Fin, no rudder

C. Open Class Board
Minimum length – 14 feet, 1 inch, up to any length?
Rudders allowed

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
16 Jan 2009 12:01PM
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I guess it is kinda like the Honolua - Surf and Race the same board

This is not an open ocean race - so I guess they are trying to catering for a large majority of the SUP public

Goes back to the Moffitts run discussion when SUPERS wanted to turn up on 12' boards when it was an open ocean race.

I would stop complaining and look for a 12' board or even just use your surfing SUB - never know you might just get lucky coming out of the bar.

Nick Flint
QLD, 4 posts
16 Jan 2009 12:03PM
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Well, based on the previous few comments.... What boards will people be paddling in the 12'6 Class..... ???

Piros..... I was keen to get into racing the SUPS and was looking at purchasing a ocean racing SUP along the lines of the DC16's for these type of events..... where do you guys paddle on the gold coast mainly......

Also in the majority of the event do they normally run different divisions as cartergorised below ?

Piros
QLD, 6992 posts
16 Jan 2009 12:47PM
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kiakaha said...

I guess it is kinda like the Honolua - Surf and Race the same board

This is not an open ocean race - so I guess they are trying to catering for a large majority of the SUP public

Goes back to the Moffitts run discussion when SUPERS wanted to turn up on 12' boards when it was an open ocean race.

I would stop complaining and look for a 12' board or even just use your surfing SUB - never know you might just get lucky coming out of the bar.



Jodie my quiver is 9-2 , 9-10 & 16-0 which one would you race ? Can you ring my wife an ask her if I can buy another board for this race....lol

Nick the boys do distance training every Tuesday in Currumbin Creek 5.30pm I have'nt been for awhile due a bad shoulder , give Dale Chapman a call 0416160335 he is doing heaps of training at the moment.All the races we have raced (except the Honolua) the majority of the competeitors has been on the unlimited boards with only a few racing the the 12ft division.They normally race all the divisions together.

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
16 Jan 2009 12:55PM
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Nick Flint said...

Well, based on the previous few comments.... What boards will people be paddling in the 12'6 Class..... ???

Piros..... I was keen to get into racing the SUPS and was looking at purchasing a ocean racing SUP along the lines of the DC16's for these type of events..... where do you guys paddle on the gold coast mainly......

Also in the majority of the event do they normally run different divisions as cartergorised below ?


I don't think the sport is big enough for division yet, just to get people to turn up is hard enough - most people are all talk and no do - as NIKE say just do it!!!!!

Look out for boards like Laird's, Gerry Lopez do a couple of 12' boards, Nash glides, Laguna Bay do a couple of big 12' boards, G&S - the rules go by Hawaiian rules and regs - so most of the 12'6 boards are not out here yet - I have heard that Jamie Mitchell is racing and he is with Surf Tech now so they might have a new board out???

This is not one of the main SUP races of the year it is just a throw in race to start the event of Surfing off - if you want to focus on the big races - look out for Honolua - Snapper to Currumbin, Moffitts to Mooloolaba which is part of the South East Queensland Outrigging Calendar, Coffs Harbour Nationals, Seaway to Seaway and any other race that is either organised by Outrigging clubs.

Last year this race included Ski's, Outriggers and SUP's it was big but they have scaled it back cause of councils rules and regs when running a open ocean race. I would just be happy that they have included something like this for this year.

Locally made boards like the DC16 and the Penetrator would be the way to go if you are wanting to get into the sport - there are a couple second hand boards for sale on here or if you contact Noosa Surf Works.

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
16 Jan 2009 12:59PM
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Piros said...

kiakaha said...

I guess it is kinda like the Honolua - Surf and Race the same board

This is not an open ocean race - so I guess they are trying to catering for a large majority of the SUP public

Goes back to the Moffitts run discussion when SUPERS wanted to turn up on 12' boards when it was an open ocean race.

I would stop complaining and look for a 12' board or even just use your surfing SUB - never know you might just get lucky coming out of the bar.



Jodie my quiver is 9-2 , 9-10 & 16-0 which one would you race ? Can you ring my wife an ask her if I can buy another board for this race....lol

Nick the boys do distance training every Tuesday in Currumbin Creek 5.30pm I have'nt been for awhile due a bad shoulder , give Dale Chapman a call 0416160335 he is doing heaps of training at the moment.All the races we have raced (except the Honolua) the majority of the competeitors has been on the unlimited boards with only a few racing the the 12ft division.They normally race all the divisions together.




You are pitching it to her all wrong -

This is what you need to say or what Woogie says to me -

Look Dare I got a new board for you it is a 12' that is really stable you will be able to come out with me on the bar on small days or we can pack a picnic and go for a paddle to a nice quite will spot.

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
16 Jan 2009 1:04PM
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Piros said...



Jodie my quiver is 9-2 , 9-10 & 16-0 which one would you race ? Can you ring my wife an ask her if I can buy another board for this race....lol




Or you need one of those Women Whispers like on the beer adds on TV - that might work LOL...

Then when she gets hooked sell it and tell her that she can use your 9'10 board and you can buy something else.

I had a great 12' board that Woogie sold on me a couple of weeks ago I was devoed -

Nick Flint
QLD, 4 posts
16 Jan 2009 2:58PM
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ok all making abit more sense now..... I currently have a Souhtpoint Kalama which Iv been using in the surf and creeks/canals as a starting point for fitness and training.

I would of thought as the sport grows and more poeple enter it like myself a 12' and under division would be a good entry level class and as noted below it seems to be more of a all rounder.

I think to help develop the competitive numbers in the sport, it would be integral to have both divisions, otherwise it may just pigeon hole itself to only the more elite paddlers and the costs involved with having two boards to enjoy the surf and the paddle racing may also discourage numbers. I have seen this happen with catamaran sailing with the numbers of sailors dropping considerably.

Would like to hear other poeples thoughts on this........

NewcastleSUP
NSW, 250 posts
17 Jan 2009 8:02AM
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Hear on the grapevine stueyC is making a 12'6 for woogie especially for this event so it pretty much rules out the off the shelf boards....but this is good for the sport as i think the custom shapers need to release boards to cover all divisions and not stick to the ultimate speed machine.

Not all the production race boards are readily available in oz just yet.

stueyc if this is true start another thread on the making of the 12'6. What will it be called? Minitrator? Punitrator?

stuey c
QLD, 265 posts
17 Jan 2009 10:55AM
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Sort of true Simon,
I was in the process of making a 12'6" anyway but now the first one will be for Woogie to race in the Noosa event. It's along the same lines as my other distance designs and although Minitrator is a cool name it'll will be a Penetrator as well.....Will post some pics as she comes along.......

Brooko
1672 posts
18 Jan 2009 6:56PM
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Good to see kneeling is out in judging for sup surfingand considered bad form... I guess thats why they call it Stand Up Paddleboarding

stuartp
QLD, 41 posts
18 Jan 2009 11:08PM
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Some more details just posted on the Festival website adding detail to Jodie's post:

"The First Light 5KM SUPS Challenge race will have its own “Race Director” who will be responsible for its conduct. A 12”6” surfboard class has been chosen and boards used are expected to be commercially available. This is intended to give as many people as possible a competitive experience, but in essence it’s really about participation and the experience of the paddle. So we hope everyone enjoys it. SUP events will be at the beginning of the week. Race Sunday, surf event Monday/Tuesday, then rep-final probably Saturday and grand final Sunday.

We are providing an entry option for the SUP race at the moment. Please be patient for this."

From: www.noosafestivalofsurfing.com/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=1&MMN_position=4:4

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
18 Jan 2009 11:01PM
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Who from the GC is going?
I've gone for the past
few years for longboarding
but this year i will add SUP
into me week!


mac

kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
30 Jan 2009 8:26PM
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Just saw Phil at the Golden Breed shop in Noosa - The entry form for the 5 km race will be up soon. He has got heaps of spot prizes for the race

Cost for the paddle is $50 but check out the website

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
11 Feb 2009 10:19AM
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Entry forms for the SUP race are now available at:

www.noosafestivalofsurfing.com/?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=3&MMN_position=3%3A3

$55 for adults and $33 for kids under 18.

NewcastleSUP
NSW, 250 posts
28 Feb 2009 6:22PM
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How is your DC12 going piros?? Any pics yet?

mybrosweeper
NSW, 1016 posts
28 Feb 2009 8:47PM
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PFFFFFTTTT,I couldnt win an argument,let alone a bloody paddle board race,good luck guys,
Robbo

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
28 Feb 2009 7:20PM
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ianr64 said...

PFFFFFTTTT,I couldnt win an argument,let alone a bloody paddle board race,good luck guys,
Robbo


Give it time mate you will win them all

mac

Piros
QLD, 6992 posts
1 Mar 2009 3:43PM
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NewcastleSUP said...

How is your DC12 going piros?? Any pics yet?


The 12-6 looking unreal hopefully next week BUT the Honula race is cutting the 12-6 down to 12-0 so If I want to race it I have to go in the open division and race againts the 16's,17's & 18"s

NewcastleSUP
NSW, 250 posts
1 Mar 2009 5:49PM
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Piros said...

NewcastleSUP said...

How is your DC12 going piros?? Any pics yet?


The 12-6 looking unreal hopefully next week BUT the Honula race is cutting the 12-6 down to 12-0 so If I want to race it I have to go in the open division and race againts the 16's,17's & 18"s




Raise it at the next SUPSA meeting, if it is still running, and have guy change it



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