Id' rather have windows than not have them. But i don't want to give up the wings durability, and to a lesser degree the added weight. Armstrong claims their new material is better than other brands... but does not explain what exactly is better about that "tent" material.
Is it stronger, lighter, both, nether, or does it just fold better.
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Id' rather have windows than not have them. But i don't want to give up the wings durability, and to a lesser degree the added weight. Armstrong claims their new material is better than other brands... but does not explain what exactly is better about that "tent" material.
Is it stronger, lighter, both, nether, or does it just fold better.
Some of the answers to your questions are found here:
Pretty amazingly grunty, had a bunch of people out yesterday with 3.5m A-Wings in 8-25kn, still getting through the lulls just fine. Dont even need to pump them up much and still stiff, I only went to 7psi yesterday and it was still hugely stiff!
What's the secret with making smaller wings more powerful ? Is it the fatter leading edge which causes more lift ?
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What's the secret with making smaller wings more powerful ? Is it the fatter leading edge which causes more lift ?
A friend whose opinion I trust just got one and loves it. He has the 5.5 and says it is more powerful than his 2nd gen Gong 7.0. Says it is Uber-stiff.
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What's the secret with making smaller wings more powerful ? Is it the fatter leading edge which causes more lift ?
Stiff, Plus tight canopy and leach. They have a long draft (Strut) as well by the looks.
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What's the secret with making smaller wings more powerful ? Is it the fatter leading edge which causes more lift ?
Stiff, Plus tight canopy and leach. They have a long draft (Strut) as well by the looks.
very much like BRM Clouds Ws
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very much like BRM Clouds Ws
Yes with more flim flams. Super hard to get the BRMs
Is anyone bringing one of these into Western Australia, would like to try a 3.5m?
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Is anyone bringing one of these into Western Australia, would like to try a 3.5m?
WAsurf have them on their website
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What's the secret with making smaller wings more powerful ? Is it the fatter leading edge which causes more lift ?
A friend whose opinion I trust just got one and loves it. He has the 5.5 and says it is more powerful than his 2nd gen Gong 7.0. Says it is Uber-stiff.
This is going to make it harder to build a quiver of different brands. Say I have a 4m and 6m from X brand, what Armstrong size would cover the gap of a 5m?
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This is going to make it harder to build a quiver of different brands. Say I have a 4m and 6m from X brand, what Armstrong size would cover the gap of a 5m?
4.5
Good info from horses mouth www.instagram.com/tv/CEZAafgDldc/?igshid=d86zqozflaxa
At the 1:15 minute mark of this video it appears that Matt is using the boom attachment for the A Wing. I referenced this video in an earlier post but I hadn't noticed the "boom".
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Good info from horses mouth www.instagram.com/tv/CEZAafgDldc/?igshid=d86zqozflaxa
DWF pointed out the HA prototype wing in the background. Talk about a blade! I heard that Armie was saying that most 'HA' wings on the market today are not true HA. I think he's going for the true HA, which probably comes with all kinds of challenges, hence the amount or R&D.
Noticed the same. This is a real tease. I'm sure it did not appear in the shot by accident, haha...
Got to ride a 4.5 meter yesterday in very marginal conditions on the Swan River Yesterday. 6 to 12 knots max
95kg rider and i was up and foiling and the wing was fantastic with it power distribution.
Was using a 2400 front foil and had to pump up a couple of times in the lighter winds however very impressed.
Thanks to Marshall for lending me his new toy.
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What's the secret with making smaller wings more powerful ? Is it the fatter leading edge which causes more lift ?
A friend whose opinion I trust just got one and loves it. He has the 5.5 and says it is more powerful than his 2nd gen Gong 7.0. Says it is Uber-stiff.
This is going to make it harder to build a quiver of different brands. Say I have a 4m and 6m from X brand, what Armstrong size would cover the gap of a 5m?
Harder than you might expect as I have compared 3 different brands and a 5m is not consistent in area across the 3 brands with some significant difference of up to .75 sqm.
This is the same issue with kites.
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Is anyone bringing one of these into Western Australia, would like to try a 3.5m?
Also see UGLYs post. I was going to mention Marshall from Ocean Murchants and little supCafe in cottesloe can get you any Armstrong gear you need. Including the Awings. I think right now he has a 5.5m in stock.??
Mine have arrived today. Unfortunately no water time yet as there is no wind. Will have to wait for Thursday for that. I did make some comparison shots with the V1 wasp.
What I can already say is that the frame is substantially stiffer. My wasp have the tendency to bend towards the tip. The A wing is noticeably thicker and stiffer in that area.
3 vs 3.5
4 vs 4.5
5 vs 5.5
(ps: adding pictures to a post is a nightmare...)
Interesting the access to the bladder at the wing tips is further up with that "opening", is there a zip ?
Have seen a 4.5 and have heard of another locally that has had the strut bladder burst during inflation/deflation. Has anyone else heard that this might be a problem with the A Wing
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Have seen a 4.5 and have heard of another locally that has had the strut bladder burst during inflation/deflation. Has anyone else heard that this might be a problem with the A Wing
Wow! That's not good. Was it over inflation or something else?
Wings of many brands are exploding when being inflated or when left in the sun.
I recently bought a 6m from a brand i will not name (because they refunded me without any trouble) that exploded (2 foot long tear from valve towards wingtip) on first inflation.
I was inflating a tad above Minimum recommended pressure and afterwards i checked the pump by connecting it to two other pumps,pressure readings were identical.
In the quest for more grunt many manufacturers are going nuts with bigger chambers and higher pressures.The materials cannot take it.
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Wings of many brands are exploding when being inflated or when left in the sun.
I recently bought a 6m from a brand i will not name (because they refunded me without any trouble) that exploded (2 foot long tear from valve towards wingtip) on first inflation.
I was inflating a tad above Minimum recommended pressure and afterwards i checked the pump by connecting it to two other pumps,pressure readings were identical.
In the quest for more grunt many manufacturers are going nuts with bigger chambers and higher pressures.The materials cannot take it.
I would think if one uses a brand that is popular in Maui heat all should be ok in Australia.
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Wings of many brands are exploding when being inflated or when left in the sun.
I recently bought a 6m from a brand i will not name (because they refunded me without any trouble) that exploded (2 foot long tear from valve towards wingtip) on first inflation.
I was inflating a tad above Minimum recommended pressure and afterwards i checked the pump by connecting it to two other pumps,pressure readings were identical.
In the quest for more grunt many manufacturers are going nuts with bigger chambers and higher pressures.The materials cannot take it.
I would think if one uses a brand that is popular in Maui heat all should be ok in Australia.
Maui,Australia or Europe...what i mean is that construction and materials being used in Wings are not enough for the big diameters and pressures in many designs.Not just Armstrong.
A kiter friend told me that kite designs also went through a phase of higher PSI and had to eventually back off because they were blowing up too often.Do not know if this is a fact.
Winging is in very early stages and we are all kind of beta testers , but 1000$ wings exploding on inflation are IMHO a clear sign that something has to change.
If big diameter+high(+7psi) are the only way to grunty ,stiff Wings then said wings will have to be more reinforced (heavier).
That or new materials or construction methods.
Meanwhile i have bought two wings from a brand that uses max 4psi for a 6m size, safer territory i hope :)
Select to expand quotemcrt said..warwickl said..mcrt said..
Wings of many brands are exploding when being inflated or when left in the sun.
I recently bought a 6m from a brand i will not name (because they refunded me without any trouble) that exploded (2 foot long tear from valve towards wingtip) on first inflation.
I was inflating a tad above Minimum recommended pressure and afterwards i checked the pump by connecting it to two other pumps,pressure readings were identical.
In the quest for more grunt many manufacturers are going nuts with bigger chambers and higher pressures.The materials cannot take it.
I would think if one uses a brand that is popular in Maui heat all should be ok in Australia.
Maui,Australia or Europe...what i mean is that construction and materials being used in Wings are not enough for the big diameters and pressures in many designs.Not just Armstrong.
A kiter friend told me that kite designs also went through a phase of higher PSI and had to eventually back off because they were blowing up too often.Do not know if this is a fact.
Winging is in very early stages and we are all kind of beta testers , but 1000$ wings exploding on inflation are IMHO a clear sign that something has to change.
If big diameter+high(+7psi) are the only way to grunty ,stiff Wings then said wings will have to be more reinforced (heavier).
That or new materials or construction methods.
Meanwhile i have bought two wings from a brand that uses max 4psi for a 6m size, safer territory i hope :)
Hmmm. No issues over here with exploding wings or kites.
