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Global climate strike day

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Created by decrepit > 9 months ago, 6 Sep 2019
petermac33

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24 Sep 2019 1:55PM
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Hilly,Yep they are claiming a 3 inch rise in the last few decades!


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise



More precise data gathered from satellite radar measurements reveal an accelerating rise of 7.5 cm (3.0 in) from 1993 to 2017,

decrepit

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24 Sep 2019 2:04PM
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Just thinking about that, we moved here in late 93.
At super low tides, you could walk all the way along the reef at Avalon from 2nd break to the big gap at 3rd break, I haven't seen that for a few years now.
Hardly a scientific observation though, I haven't been sure to be there at absolute low tide, and taken height measurements every year, along with barometric pressure, etc etc.

petermac33

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24 Sep 2019 2:14PM
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A three inch rise could mean a lot,lot more of the beach covered by water.

Of course that is a FACT they are counting on you not being aware of.

NotWal

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24 Sep 2019 4:55PM
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TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are


How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...

Ian K

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24 Sep 2019 3:34PM
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petermac33 said..
A three inch rise could mean a lot,lot more of the beach covered by water.

Of course that is a FACT they are counting on you not being aware of.



Bruun's rule of thumb suggests that for a sandy coastline the ratio of beach retreat to sea level rise is 50 to 100 to 1
So a 3 inch rise could cause the beach to move 300 inches inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bruun_Rule.

Mr Milk

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24 Sep 2019 5:41PM
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Wouldn't that mean that the beach would be 300 inches narrower? Assuming vegetation and structures remain in place. And ignoring shifting mud and sand.

TonyAbbott

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24 Sep 2019 4:11PM
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Ian K said..

petermac33 said..
A three inch rise could mean a lot,lot more of the beach covered by water.

Of course that is a FACT they are counting on you not being aware of.




Bruun's rule of thumb suggests that for a sandy coastline the ratio of beach retreat to sea level rise is 50 to 100 to 1
So a 3 inch rise could cause the beach to move 300 inches inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bruun_Rule.


Bruun's rule is as good a most of the consensus climate science assumptions

TonyAbbott

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NotWal said..

TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are



How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...


Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong

petermac33

petermac33

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24 Sep 2019 4:36PM
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Ian K said..

petermac33 said..
A three inch rise could mean a lot,lot more of the beach covered by water.

Of course that is a FACT they are counting on you not being aware of.




Bruun's rule of thumb suggests that for a sandy coastline the ratio of beach retreat to sea level rise is 50 to 100 to 1
So a 3 inch rise could cause the beach to move 300 inches inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bruun_Rule.


300 inches is like huge. That is 25 feet odd.

Ian K

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24 Sep 2019 4:55PM
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TonyAbbott said..

Ian K said..


petermac33 said..
A three inch rise could mean a lot,lot more of the beach covered by water.

Of course that is a FACT they are counting on you not being aware of.





Bruun's rule of thumb suggests that for a sandy coastline the ratio of beach retreat to sea level rise is 50 to 100 to 1
So a 3 inch rise could cause the beach to move 300 inches inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bruun_Rule.



Bruun's rule is as good a most of the consensus climate science assumptions


Even with all its critics, I'd think it's still a lot better than those. You're free to be critical of Bruun's rule without getting cast adrift.

NotWal

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24 Sep 2019 7:07PM
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TonyAbbott said..

NotWal said..


TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are




How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...



Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong


Maybe you could specify the significance of such a point.

petermac33

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24 Sep 2019 5:11PM
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The beach moving 25 feet inland you would never notice,ha,ha.

holy guacamole

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NotWal said..How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed?


Dumb heard mentality LOL so funny haha

japie

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24 Sep 2019 9:04PM
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Herd.

If the herd had not heard the lion one of them would likely have been killed.

www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/01/17/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/?fbclid=IwAR2UmQ8ERLpWuZU5MPTUs-3S8xcoHWlYN8G-BvK6XMGOAbQ-Md8AixKX_rQ

holy guacamole

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TonyAbbott said..



NotWal said..




TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are






How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...





Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong


Hey look matees, the ADF is in on the socialist conspiracy too..

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/australian-defence-force-angus-campbell-climate-change-speech/11543464

Mobydisc

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25 Sep 2019 2:31PM
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groucho said..


Hey look matees, the ADF is in on the socialist conspiracy too..

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/australian-defence-force-angus-campbell-climate-change-speech/11543464





The irony is the army usually does bugger all when it comes to helping out in natural disasters & normally steps in after the worst is over & most of the work has been done. If I was the PM my response would be to sack this bloke and the rest of the army with him. I might keep the army reserves and the SAS/commandoes. That would be about it. The army does very little to protect Australians from foreign invasion and are a big waste of money.

If you actually look at it, standing armies are the biggest socialist institutions around. They operate purely on top down commands and do not respond at all to bottom up market stimuluses. Is it a coincidence many socialist societies start resembling militaristic ones after a while?

holy guacamole

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25 Sep 2019 12:52PM
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Hehe yeah well it is a "socialist left-wing" conspiracy after all.

TonyAbbott

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NotWal said..

TonyAbbott said..


NotWal said..



TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are





How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...




Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong



Maybe you could specify the significance of such a point.


It would prove me wrong

I am certain we have not had a global apocalyptic event recently. Despite so many predictions we would have.

Prove me wrong

TonyAbbott

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25 Sep 2019 2:47PM
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groucho said..


TonyAbbott said..





NotWal said..






TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are








How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...







Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong




Hey look matees, the ADF is in on the socialist conspiracy too..

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/australian-defence-force-angus-campbell-climate-change-speech/11543464



Is he a climate scientist?

Can we listen to non-climate scientists now?

Am i able to roll out a brainwashed disabled kid to prove me right yet?

TonyAbbott

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groucho said..
Hehe yeah well it is a "socialist left-wing" conspiracy after all.


Not sure I would call it a conspiracy

It is not a secret

The socialist are quite open about wanting a high taxing one-world totalitarian socialist government.


petermac33

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25 Sep 2019 3:13PM
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Convenient for decrepit to not respond to the claimed three inch rise in sea level in the last 20 odd years - which if true would on average result in a 300 inch or 25 feet covering of land.

I can assure decrepit and other cultists that the beaches around the Swan River have NOT been encroached by an additional 25 feet of water and are the similar to exactly the same as they were twenty odd years ago

I understand it's hard for some folks to admit they've been well and truly been led up tbe garden path. The ego is who we are for some.

Sometimes it takes our soul to see through the lies. Some of us just know by our gut this 24/7 propaganda campaign is hogwash.


https://tiffanyfitzhenry.com/breaking-news/globalist-puppets-revealed/

log man

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25 Sep 2019 5:14PM
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TonyAbbott said..

groucho said..
Hehe yeah well it is a "socialist left-wing" conspiracy after all.



Not sure I would call it a conspiracy

It is not a secret

The socialist are quite open about wanting a high taxing one-world totalitarian socialist government.




Haha!!! what a nut box!!!

log man

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25 Sep 2019 5:16PM
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TonyAbbott said..

groucho said..



TonyAbbott said..






NotWal said..







TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are









How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...








Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong





Hey look matees, the ADF is in on the socialist conspiracy too..

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/australian-defence-force-angus-campbell-climate-change-speech/11543464




Is he a climate scientist?

Can we listen to non-climate scientists now?

Am i able to roll out a brainwashed disabled kid to prove me right yet?


"a brainwashed disabled kid" .......what a disgusting thing to say to a child.

decrepit

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petermac33 said..
Convenient for decrepit to not respond to the claimed three inch rise in sea level in the last 20 odd years - which if true would on average result in a 300 inch or 25 feet covering of land.
>>>>


Actually Pete I did respond, but either my post was removed, or this silly old fart forgot to hit the "Post" button.

So I'll have another go.
When we moved here in 93, at very low tides, you could walk along the reef between 2nd break and the big gap at 3rd break. I haven't seen that happen for several years.
Not a scientific observation though, I haven't taken any measurements, or taken into account, when peak low tide occurred, and what the storm surge was.

decrepit

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TonyAbbott said.. I am certain we have not had a global apocalyptic event recently. Despite so many predictions we would have.

Prove me wrong


Climate change science does not predict any past apocalyptic events, what are you talking about????????

If you are referring to all the doomsday nut job predictions, that's irrelevant, we're talking about the vast majority of the world's climate scientists, sort of a different level don't you think?

NotWal

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25 Sep 2019 6:04PM
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TonyAbbott said..

NotWal said..


TonyAbbott said..



NotWal said..




TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are






How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...





Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong




Maybe you could specify the significance of such a point.



It would prove me wrong

I am certain we have not had a global apocalyptic event recently. Despite so many predictions we would have.

Prove me wrong


It's bollocks. Substantiate the claim that climate scientists have claimed we should have had a "global apocalyptic event".
They haven't. It's a strawman.

What they have said is that the globe is warming and bad things are on the way. They have also warned us about tipping points, you know run away warming that can't be stopped.

NotWal

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TonyAbbott said..

groucho said..



TonyAbbott said..






NotWal said..







TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are









How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...








Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong





Hey look matees, the ADF is in on the socialist conspiracy too..

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/australian-defence-force-angus-campbell-climate-change-speech/11543464




Is he a climate scientist?

Can we listen to non-climate scientists now?

Am i able to roll out a brainwashed disabled kid to prove me right yet?


He's an expert on disaster response. He's speaking in that capacity.

As for the "brainwashed disabled kid", you don't need one. You very ably fill that roll yourself.

decrepit

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NotWal said..>>>What they have said is that the globe is warming and bad things are on the way. They have also warned us about tipping points, you know run away warming that can't be stopped.


I haven't seen it for a while, but there was also the chaos theory worry that the climate could slip into another "strange attractor" state, which would mean a completely different unknowable planetary weather system.

Chaos theory is interesting stuff, from wikipedia.
Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics focusing on the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions. Chaos theory is an interdisciplinary theory stating that within the apparent randomness of chaotic complex systems, there are underlying patterns, constant feedback loops, repetition, self-similarity, fractals, and self-organization.Wikipedia

So we are in one "underlying pattern" now created by the current feedback loops. A small change in one of those loops can change the underlying pattern.
One of the predictions is the shut down of the golf stream current buy melting ice, if it happens, this will make Western Britain and Eastern Canada colder for a while. Enough of a feedback loop change? Who knows, it's a chaotic system and the change in underlying patterns is hard to predict.

TonyAbbott

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NotWal said..


TonyAbbott said..



NotWal said..




TonyAbbott said..





NotWal said..






TonyAbbott said..
Climate emergency

www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

What a joke climate alarmists are








How TF did that bollocks get green thumbed? It's from Breitbart, only slightly to the left of Stormfront. They wouldn't have a global warming denial agenda, noooo.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breitbart.com

You guys have been given a link to a legitimate science source and you choose to believe contradiction by dead****s like Breitbart!!
SMH There are no words...







Maybe you could list all the global doomsday apocalypse events that have happened over the last few decades

That will prove the article wrong






Maybe you could specify the significance of such a point.





It would prove me wrong

I am certain we have not had a global apocalyptic event recently. Despite so many predictions we would have.

Prove me wrong




It's bollocks. Substantiate the claim that climate scientists have claimed we should have had a "global apocalyptic event".
They haven't. It's a strawman.

What they have said is that the globe is warming and bad things are on the way. They have also warned us about tipping points, you know run away warming that can't be stopped.


www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20190920&utm_content=B

decrepit

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25 Sep 2019 4:28PM
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you're still quoting brietbart


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