No, "Mr Float", that does not work for me -- it does not capture the dynamics and joint involvement and responsibility (the key point) involved imo.
Read the story again. Think of a young woman in a car with a baby in the back seat about to turn right across traffic on a busy intersection. Just at the moment of decision to 'go' into a tight gap in the oncoming traffic you yell out something about a broken indicator light. She's distracted and mistimes. Then you walk away from the resulting mess feeling 100% happy you helped. Actually then you would be interviewed by police as a public nuisance.
The point here for me, which I'm obviously not getting through, is the notion of joint responsibility in what we do. You got here through sexual intercourse. Who is responsible for the pregnancy? Same with social intercourse. There is joint responsibility. This aught to be fairly obvious unless your are high on the autism spectrum. This topic is a microcosm of the greater story in much of these threads -- kiteboarding as a public nuisance.
The golden rule is do unto others as you have done to your self. And that includes the manner and style. It is usually called common respect. Read the story again and note that the initial intervention was communicating incorrect information -- the bar was not around the wrong way!
On the basis of this ongoing feed back I might be persuaded to move from 60% up towards 80% -- but I doubt the voices venting here could come down from 100%. It is a fundamentalist thing and cognitive challenge for some.
RSC, you are making very convincing argument here for me to ignore the next person that needs advice/assistance/.
I don't think he realises that kiting is not an individuals' sport. What we do on the beach and on the water reflects on the sport as a whole.
The fact that he was unaware of WAKSA, their fight to maintain access for local beaches and that risky behaviour on the beach is what threatens our sport amazes me. The fact that he attempted a self launch while not 99.9999% sure of what he was doing dumbfounds me.
Some people just don't get it, and never will.
Meanwhile the rest of us will have a ball, laugh with our mates and enjoy this fabulous sport.
"Unfortunately the laws in our society actually allow for the transfer of responsibility!!!!!" (KitePower Australia, Steve McCormack, 54 y.o.)
Thank you for your response.
Well that about sums up the total irresponsibility of the situation imo. Thank you for that outburst. I now see that it is people like you who are respponsible for setting this strange tone in this kiting domain.
If you are in a position of leadership and influence, which is appears to be the case, then you need to be removed and counseled until you can respect the laws of the land. Your attitude is outside the law and needs reviewing urgently!
You will have drawn the attention of authorities to your company, in your lawless attitudes.
Your attack on me is, again, your opinion: and you are entitled to it. But I do not share it. I'm entitled to my views. And, as it seems you have confirmed by your outburst, I am correct -- there is shared responsibility under the Australian Law.
Your attitude and public statement under this corporate LOGO is of great concern in my opinion. I will be happy to quote you in my paper on the topic.
I think there needs to be a public statement somewhere that confirms that Kiteboarding associations work and profess under the law of the land. Something here is 'out of control' and I think we have just found it. Does WAKSA endorse your views on this matter?
Basically, Mr McCormack, you can change the laws, or you can change your self. I know which is easier. But setting this type of tone in a public forum is the height of irresponsible behaviour. You should be cautioned.
And, 'Mr float' -- you are welcome. Take care.
i bet u have these types of arguments in your everyday life. seems in your mature years u still have not learned lesson number one> stop blaming other people.
i also laughed in your earlier post at u getting angry after u face planted hurt rib etc...
one of those hey anger problems, i wonder how many times u have smashed your keyboard already during your fierce posting.
chill out man stop trying to get your point across or we will keep dangling the bait and ull keep biting Yawnnnnnnnn!!!!!
wtf.
Laws of the land.
Legal system
lawless attitudes.
interviewed by police as a public nuisance,
final judgments
attitude is outside the law
shared responsibility under the Australian Law.
height of irresponsible behaviour
getting involved with WAKSA -- not likely
I don't think you realise that it is not a sport for me
I might actually vote with local councils
corporate LOGO
high drama in the courts
litigation as resolution. etc etc etc etc etc Yada yada yada
Your insane mr rsc
RSC you are a child grow up ,
dont kite at our local spot you are not welcome and you will be shown the door ?
dont need clowns like you at our local spot who are not responsable for thier actions
Anger is normal
It is the background residual anger being displayed that I'm interested in.
anger management is what it is about.
I see the internerd tuff guys are flexing their muscles as usual, instead of staying on topic.
Maturity is allowing discussion on comments that differ from you own and not a sheeple group attack on someone who offers a diff viewpoint.
I'm not saying I neccesarilly agree with rsc - but some of you laydees are just to darn tuff and scary.
Always luv it when easter counterparts stick their peckers into a WA issue having never kited here or seen the amount of clowns and carnage.
Now - who wants to discuss the problems at Brighton - not posture with your mouse in one hand and your tool in the other?