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What did you do to your sailing boat today ?

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Created by Boatin > 9 months ago, 12 Jun 2013
nswsailor
NSW, 1434 posts
9 Mar 2017 9:29PM
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woko said..
The Clarence river is home port, but am in no great hurry to get there, want to look at Broughton island, tuncurry maybe some of the ocean anchorages. It's been e bit of a shake down cruise have got a big list of things to do to the old girl when I get her home


Hope you can visit Bluemoon and me in the Camden Haven River as you go north?

cisco
QLD, 12336 posts
9 Mar 2017 11:54PM
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That mast looks to be a tad too far forward for an efficient sloop rig.

I am not trying to burst your bubble HG, rather save you some grief.

You have done some backtracking on the steering which is good. Less than 45 foot, tiller steering is quite enough.

Your yacht is designed and originally built as an H28 ketch. I think you should stick to that. Nothing wrong with them. Simplicity is the key for a cruising yacht.

We on Seabreeze have seen you put your heart into Driftwood like few others do with their yachts. Magnificent job. Don't cock it up by thinking you know better than the designer.

I see your choice being to move the mast to the sloop position (major and expensive) or mount the mizzen mast at where it is already set up for (not so expensive). Heavy weather, small head sail and reefed mizzen, the yacht will balance and get you safely to port.

Your choice mate.

Me?? I am just another feckwit stupid enough to own a yacht.

southace
SA, 4776 posts
10 Mar 2017 8:17AM
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cisco said..

HG02 said..




That mast looks to be a tad too far forward for an efficient sloop rig.

I am not trying to burst your bubble HG, rather save you some grief.

You have done some backtracking on the steering which is good. Less than 45 foot, tiller steering is quite enough.

Your yacht is designed and originally built as an H28 ketch. I think you should stick to that. Nothing wrong with them. Simplicity is the key for a cruising yacht.

We on Seabreeze have seen you put your heart into Driftwood like few others do with their yachts. Magnificent job. Don't cock it up by thinking you know better than the designer.

I see your choice being to move the mast to the sloop position (major and expensive) or mount the mizzen mast at where it is already set up for (not so expensive). Heavy weather, small head sail and reefed mizzen, the yacht will balance and get you safely to port.

Your choice mate.

Me?? I am just another feckwit stupid enough to own a yacht.



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cisco said..

HG02 said..




That mast looks to be a tad too far forward for an efficient sloop rig.

I am not trying to burst your bubble HG, rather save you some grief.

You have done some backtracking on the steering which is good. Less than 45 foot, tiller steering is quite enough.

Your yacht is designed and originally built as an H28 ketch. I think you should stick to that. Nothing wrong with them. Simplicity is the key for a cruising yacht.

We on Seabreeze have seen you put your heart into Driftwood like few others do with their yachts. Magnificent job. Don't cock it up by thinking you know better than the designer.

I see your choice being to move the mast to the sloop position (major and expensive) or mount the mizzen mast at where it is already set up for (not so expensive). Heavy weather, small head sail and reefed mizzen, the yacht will balance and get you safely to port.

Your choice mate.

Me?? I am just another feckwit stupid enough to own a yacht.


Bit late for your humble advise now CISCO! My Dunc 37 was a ketch rig and I chose not to move the mast and Chainplates and the yacht performed exceptionally from SA to Tas to Qld. I got advise from our family friend a navel architect and also my father a shipwright that she will be right! Just go sailing HO2 you will be happy.




BlueMoon
866 posts
10 Mar 2017 8:24AM
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Not claiming to be very knowledgeable on the subject at all....the only problem I see HG might have is not enough sail area in light winds, which will require maybe a bit more motoring than he'd like??
Is lack of sail area something you noticed SA?, & if so is there anything that HG could do to help?
cheers

southace
SA, 4776 posts
10 Mar 2017 12:58PM
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BlueMoon said..
Not claiming to be very knowledgeable on the subject at all....the only problem I see HG might have is not enough sail area in light winds, which will require maybe a bit more motoring than he'd like??
Is lack of sail area something you noticed SA?, & if so is there anything that HG could do to help?
cheers


It's more a problem of weather helm and balance. Dump the traveller I say. .... I only pull the traveller up in light winds. Always point high with the traveller dumped and maintain good boat speeds. I have seen many ketch rigs in my travels sailing around with main and headsail and no Mizen sail.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
11 Mar 2017 7:37PM
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ordered a boom kicker

After climbing the mast the other day I used muscles I have not used for a while day off today
Was a little bit stiff legged

PhoenixStar
QLD, 477 posts
11 Mar 2017 8:49PM
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Don't worry about balance HG02, it will be fine and even better in fresh winds. Suck it and see, you will be surprised.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
11 Mar 2017 9:57PM
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PhoenixStar said..
Don't worry about balance HG02, it will be fine and even better in fresh winds. Suck it and see, you will be surprised.


Cheers PhoenixStar

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
20 Mar 2017 5:06PM
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That battern TV aerial works a treat
69 TV channels
Thanks for the info you guys




BJRob
NSW, 251 posts
20 Mar 2017 5:53PM
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I spent about 2 hours adjusting the rigging on my boat.
I noticed that I could point higher on one tack than the other, and that one lower was flapping.
Found out my mast was 25mm put of plumb.
One thing that I could not do was get the lower tensions the same and keep the mast straight. So one is on a lower tension than the other. Took a while but glad it is done.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
21 Mar 2017 4:45PM
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Found some old timber so I'm putting it to use


GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
21 Mar 2017 6:39PM
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Is that a nice bit of Oregon or Tassie Oak HG? A couple of coats of marine varnish or some teak oil?

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
21 Mar 2017 7:01PM
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Is that a nice bit of Oregon or Tassie Oak HG? A couple of coats of marine varnish or some teak oil?


I've a. Bit more to do with it yet

MorningBird
NSW, 2662 posts
22 Mar 2017 3:44PM
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Just spent 3 hours sweating over my engine changing the seawater pump impeller. On the little Sole I need to remove the heat exchanger to get at the seawater pump. Here is how it went!
Arrive at boat at 1115. Open up and clean a little bit (about 1 litre) of water out of the bilge, not bad after the rain we have had for the past two weeks.
Remove engine cover (cabin table).
Unscrew all the heat exchanger clamps, prise the exchanger off.
Dry bilge of rusty coolant.
Remove the impeller cover, six small allen headed bolts, drop allen key into bilge twice. Glad I had cleaned the bilge first.
Try to get the impeller out, won't budge, have a drink of water while I think about it. Crank engine over, impeller moves out. Lever it a bit more and crank again. Get impeller out.
Line new impeller up with the key way and push it in. Won't go. Get down on cabin sole with torch and see I have put it in about 30 deg out. Remove and realign. Spend 30 minutes getting it to go in.
Find gasket goo. Top has rusted through and it is a sticky mess inside a zip lock bag. Get enough goo to coat the gasket face on the cover.
Replace cover with the six bolts, drop the allen key into bilge once. But skin fingers getting the little bolts finger tight. A unpleasant job in the cramped space between the cover and the starter motor, holding torch with right hand and use uncoordinated left hand to use the allen key.
Replace the heat exchanger and tighten up what feels like two dozen clamps. Really only 6 but have to do them twice and check all the others.
Open inlet cock, hear rushing water, engine cock off, find leak and undo then redo the clamps. Cock back on, no water ingress. Very pleased.
Put water in coolant tank, listen for leaks. Silence and nothing in the bilge.
Start engine. All good. Add coolant concentrate and more water.
Run engine, looks good.
Drop mooring and go for a 20 minute drive.
Minimal water in bilge, probably a bit of overflow from me topping the coolant a bit high.
Clean it up and run engine again for 5 minutes. Dry bilge.
1415, clean up and go home.
Is this what all boat owners go through? Why can't it be straightforward?

slammin
QLD, 994 posts
22 Mar 2017 3:53PM
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MorningBird said..
Just spent 3 hours sweating over my engine changing the seawater pump impeller. On the little Sole I need to remove the heat exchanger to get at the seawater pump. Here is how it went!
Arrive at boat at 1115. Open up and clean a little bit (about 1 litre) of water out of the bilge, not bad after the rain we have had for the past two weeks.
Remove engine cover (cabin table).
Unscrew all the heat exchanger clamps, prise the exchanger off.
Dry bilge of rusty coolant.
Remove the impeller cover, six small allen headed bolts, drop allen key into bilge twice. Glad I had cleaned the bilge first.
Try to get the impeller out, won't budge, have a drink of water while I think about it. Crank engine over, impeller moves out. Lever it a bit more and crank again. Get impeller out.
Line new impeller up with the key way and push it in. Won't go. Get down on cabin sole with torch and see I have put it in about 30 deg out. Remove and realign. Spend 30 minutes getting it to go in.
Find gasket goo. Top has rusted through and it is a sticky mess inside a zip lock bag. Get enough goo to coat the gasket face on the cover.
Replace cover with the six bolts, drop the allen key into bilge once. But skin fingers getting the little bolts finger tight. A unpleasant job in the cramped space between the cover and the starter motor, holding torch with right hand and use uncoordinated left hand to use the allen key.
Replace the heat exchanger and tighten up what feels like two dozen clamps. Really only 6 but have to do them twice and check all the others.
Open inlet cock, hear rushing water, engine cock off, find leak and undo then redo the clamps. Cock back on, no water ingress. Very pleased.
Put water in coolant tank, listen for leaks. Silence and nothing in the bilge.
Start engine. All good. Add coolant concentrate and more water.
Run engine, looks good.
Drop mooring and go for a 20 minute drive.
Minimal water in bilge, probably a bit of overflow from me topping the coolant a bit high.
Clean it up and run engine again for 5 minutes. Dry bilge.
1415, clean up and go home.
Is this what all boat owners go through? Why can't it be straightforward?


Mate just thank the boat gods that you got it all finished! To me it sounds like a pretty smooth run in uncomfortable circumstances. My exploits usually take 2 days at best!

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
22 Mar 2017 5:34PM
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Having a water pump with Allen key screws is a bit up market!

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
22 Mar 2017 6:00PM
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Found is more reliable to add some zip ties instead up the suction cap




I'll tidy it tomorrow

southace
SA, 4776 posts
22 Mar 2017 7:26PM
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HG02 said..
Found is more reliable to add some zip ties instead up the suction cap




I'll tidy it tomorrow


Looking good HO2 are you sleeping onboard yet?

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
23 Mar 2017 3:13PM
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Boom kicker fitted tomorrow the main Sail and boom bag will go on
Then I can sort out the vang
That's just the old mizzen main sheet







sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
23 Mar 2017 4:17PM
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I would have tied a thin line to the Alan key instead of doing a Homer trice...?
D'oh!

MorningBird
NSW, 2662 posts
23 Mar 2017 6:02PM
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sirgallivant said..
I would have tied a thin line to the Alan key instead of doing a Homer trice...?
D'oh!



The bilge is easily accessible up the pump end, provided it isn't full of bilge gunge. I tie cord to tools at the gearbox end, can't get in there.
Our boats are near each other, should catch up one day.

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
23 Mar 2017 6:18PM
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HG02 said..
Boom kicker fitted tomorrow the main Sail and boom bag will go on
Then I can sort out the vang
That's just the old mizzen main sheet








What size boom kicker did you buy?

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
23 Mar 2017 10:23PM
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Ramona said..

HG02 said..
Boom kicker fitted tomorrow the main Sail and boom bag will go on
Then I can sort out the vang
That's just the old mizzen main sheet








What size boom kicker did you buy?


K1000 Ramona it now comes with a slide track on the boom so it can have extra fine adjustment also they say when fitting you can cut the two rods which I did and removed around about 6 inches
I took a guess and made the boom end higher in the cockpit once the sail bag and sail go on tomorrow after noon I may have to do some adjusting But seems a great product. with no moving parts.





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southace said..

HG02 said..
Found is more reliable to add some zip ties instead up the suction cap




I'll tidy it tomorrow



Looking good HO2 are you sleeping onboard yet?



Have been South Ace get more work down but it makes it hard locating things while renovating if you no what I mean

slammin
QLD, 994 posts
24 Mar 2017 6:20AM
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HG please correct me but I thought that boom kickers were designed to only hold the boom and not the furled sail etc? Is that why it's adjustable? So you can knock it back a few notches when the weight is off?

As for my boat I replaced the main halyard and moved all the other halyards down a size. So that the old main is now the spinnaker, the old spinnaker is now the headsail etcetera.

I also replaced the trailer winch spectra rope after a nearly catastrophic retrieval last week.... note to self and other TSers. When launching at new ramps? be extra careful with your checklists. The old winch rope had a triannual shortening to remove the possibly? UV damaged length but under a bit of unscheduled (my stupidity) shock loading snapped.

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
24 Mar 2017 8:12AM
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This is my old quarter tonner a few years ago. The boom kicker I made from a cut down game rod blank with SS ends I fabricated. In this case I managed to go with out a topping lift. The boom kicker held the boom nicely when reefing. For several years now I have been trying to get motivated to make another set up and have pondered about using a snow ski from the Salvos as the spring or laminate one from scratch out of carbon fibre.



EC31
NSW, 490 posts
24 Mar 2017 8:52AM
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Would a couple of fiberglass battens from a dinghy work as boom kickers or are they too flimsy?

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
24 Mar 2017 5:35PM
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EC31 said..
Would a couple of fiberglass battens from a dinghy work as boom kickers or are they too flimsy?


No they have to support the weight of the sail and stackpack and sometimes your weight when you fall onto the boom!

www.boomkicker.com/

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
30 Mar 2017 4:04PM
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Bit more sanding to go then some West System 207/105 uv resin
Still to polish and cut down an old brass hinge to fit the tops


PhoenixStar
QLD, 477 posts
31 Mar 2017 3:35PM
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Fitted a new dome and O-ring to the Richie compass. What great people to deal with, a couple of emails to find the right parts for the 40 year old compass, a paypal transaction, and a week later the parts are here. Easy to fit the dome, but what a pain filling the compass with half a liter of fluid through a 3/16 inch hole. And getting that last 5 cent piece sized air bubble filled.

Never mind. Should be good for another 40 years.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
31 Mar 2017 5:07PM
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PhoenixStar said..
Fitted a new dome and O-ring to the Richie compass. What great people to deal with, a couple of emails to find the right parts for the 40 year old compass, a paypal transaction, and a week later the parts are here. Easy to fit the dome, but what a pain filling the compass with half a liter of fluid through a 3/16 inch hole. And getting that last 5 cent piece sized air bubble filled.

Never mind. Should be good for another 40 years.


should see me out Phoenix Some one was throwing out Huon pine veneer into hard rubbish so i collected some
Ill let it go off now and tomorrow Ill give it a sand back and add some more coats its a bit hard to flow coat so its just brushed on all good .
I epoxied the foam onto the fridge bench top and will sand the foam to the same size as the bench top












I've heaps of work to do inside



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