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McNaughtical
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31 Jul 2015 6:42PM
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Shaggybaxter said..
HG, could I borrow you for like 12 months to redo my old queenslander? I think Im in love...



Noooo Shaggy.... I bags him first!!!

McNaughtical
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31 Jul 2015 6:44PM
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HG02 said..

First coat of primer near the forward bulk head
Hoping this will break up the timber
Ill sand and recoat several time before i give it the final coat
Masking tape off



Love that timber!! That would look good in mine!!

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
31 Jul 2015 7:28PM
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Shaggybaxter said..
HG, could I borrow you for like 12 months to redo my old queenslander? I think Im in love...



When I retire and sail north let me know

Meg1122
QLD, 285 posts
31 Jul 2015 8:53PM
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HG02 said..

Shaggybaxter said..
HG, could I borrow you for like 12 months to redo my old queenslander? I think Im in love...




When I retire and sail north let me know


Aaawww you guys!....and here I was thinking we already had one Romance Forum....Lol ! Nice work HG...going to be beautiful upon completion (Oh, but that's right...yacht = completion never comes! )

DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
31 Jul 2015 9:41PM
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Finally got the stack pack finished and partially installed it today. Been doing A LOT of sewing lately; have quite enjoyed it as a winter project and learned a lot.

Material is WeatherMax rather than Sunbrella. I'm hoping it will last well; we'll see. Easier to manage in construction. Thread is UV resistant; I could only get white which meant I had to be very careful as all the errors are so visible. In the end I did this project with my wife's Janome home machine. I would have preferred an industrial grade machine but was being very cheap.










Next is the dodger replacement; a much trickier project because it is more 3D than the relatively flat stack pack. Took it to the boat to check I'm in the ballpark. Going to be a bit tricky and I'll need a little luck as well to get it right first time.I'm replacing all the fasteners so if I do those last I can adjust slightly if it's not exactly as it was (I used the old dodger as the pattern).

I'm ditching the old frame and building a 1" stainless tubing frame with hand holds on the sides and across the cockpit.



Whadya think of my dodger cover? I reckon it'll be good for night sailing - I won't have to worry about all those pesky nav lights ahead of me.

Finally, I'll need to eradicate all the seagulls in Double Bay.






HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
31 Jul 2015 10:02PM
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Nice Job Dr Rog looking forward to the stainless bending photos.. Could I ask what wall thickness tube you use Dr Rog

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Meg1122 said..

HG02 said..


Shaggybaxter said..
HG, could I borrow you for like 12 months to redo my old queenslander? I think Im in love...





When I retire and sail north let me know



Aaawww you guys!....and here I was thinking we already had one Romance Forum....Lol ! Nice work HG...going to be beautiful upon completion (Oh, but that's right...yacht = completion never comes! )


I believe your right Meg

McNaughtical
NSW, 908 posts
31 Jul 2015 11:05PM
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DrRog said..
Finally got the stack pack finished and partially installed it today. Been doing A LOT of sewing lately; have quite enjoyed it as a winter project and learned a lot.
Material is WeatherMax rather than Sunbrella. I'm hoping it will last well; we'll see. Easier to manage in construction. Thread is UV resistant; I could only get white which meant I had to be very careful as all the errors are so visible. In the end I did this project with my wife's Janome home machine. I would have preferred an industrial grade machine but was being very cheap.
Next is the dodger replacement; a much trickier project because it is more 3D than the relatively flat stack pack. Took it to the boat to check I'm in the ballpark. Going to be a bit tricky and I'll need a little luck as well to get it right first time.I'm replacing all the fasteners so if I do those last I can adjust slightly if it's not exactly as it was (I used the old dodger as the pattern).
I'm ditching the old frame and building a 1" stainless tubing frame with hand holds on the sides and across the cockpit.
Whadya think of my dodger cover? I reckon it'll be good for night sailing - I won't have to worry about all those pesky nav lights ahead of me.
Finally, I'll need to eradicate all the seagulls in Double Bay.



Nicely done Dr Rog.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
1 Aug 2015 8:32AM
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There's a lady down here that does great work this is one of her projects Dr Rog might give you a few ideas

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
1 Aug 2015 9:27AM
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DrRog said..
Finally got the stack pack finished and partially installed it today. Been doing A LOT of sewing lately; have quite enjoyed it as a winter project and learned a lot.

Material is WeatherMax rather than Sunbrella. I'm hoping it will last well; we'll see. Easier to manage in construction. Thread is UV resistant; I could only get white which meant I had to be very careful as all the errors are so visible. In the end I did this project with my wife's Janome home machine. I would have preferred an industrial grade machine but was being very cheap.










Next is the dodger replacement; a much trickier project because it is more 3D than the relatively flat stack pack. Took it to the boat to check I'm in the ballpark. Going to be a bit tricky and I'll need a little luck as well to get it right first time.I'm replacing all the fasteners so if I do those last I can adjust slightly if it's not exactly as it was (I used the old dodger as the pattern).

I'm ditching the old frame and building a 1" stainless tubing frame with hand holds on the sides and across the cockpit.



Whadya think of my dodger cover? I reckon it'll be good for night sailing - I won't have to worry about all those pesky nav lights ahead of me.

Finally, I'll need to eradicate all the seagulls in Double Bay.







I like the stack pack but would suggest a couple more straps around the mast. Re arrange the Lazy jacks too. Are you intending to instal top flaps and a zip to close off the top?

I'm not a fan of dodgers but if I was to instal one I would go straight to a hard version and ensure it had hand holds along each side at the top. With that deck layout you have you are going to have to move past that dodger to go to the mast and a strong frame with exterior handholds are going to be vital.

HG02
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1 Aug 2015 11:56AM
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Some thing like this one Ramoma

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
1 Aug 2015 12:19PM
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DrRog said..
Finally got the stack pack finished and partially installed it today. Been doing A LOT of sewing lately; have quite enjoyed it as a winter project and learned a lot.

Material is WeatherMax rather than Sunbrella. I'm hoping it will last well; we'll see. Easier to manage in construction. Thread is UV resistant; I could only get white which meant I had to be very careful as all the errors are so visible. In the end I did this project with my wife's Janome home machine. I would have preferred an industrial grade machine but was being very cheap.










Next is the dodger replacement; a much trickier project because it is more 3D than the relatively flat stack pack. Took it to the boat to check I'm in the ballpark. Going to be a bit tricky and I'll need a little luck as well to get it right first time.I'm replacing all the fasteners so if I do those last I can adjust slightly if it's not exactly as it was (I used the old dodger as the pattern).

I'm ditching the old frame and building a 1" stainless tubing frame with hand holds on the sides and across the cockpit.



Whadya think of my dodger cover? I reckon it'll be good for night sailing - I won't have to worry about all those pesky nav lights ahead of me.

Finally, I'll need to eradicate all the seagulls in Double Bay.







Good job DrRog. Now this is a job coming up for us. The Missus wants to make a stack pack before the end of the year.
Why did you choose WeatherMax over Sunbrella??. And is your mainsail loose footed like mine??. How did you attach your
Lazy Jack lines to the stack pack?? I'm considering zipping my stack pack around the mast. Sorry about all the questions
but the info will really help us.

andy59
QLD, 1153 posts
1 Aug 2015 12:22PM
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Looks great dr Rog well done
That's a nice looking dodger HG

DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
1 Aug 2015 12:48PM
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Ramona said..


I like the stack pack but would suggest a couple more straps around the mast. Re arrange the Lazy jacks too. Are you intending to instal top flaps and a zip to close off the top?

I'm not a fan of dodgers but if I was to instal one I would go straight to a hard version and ensure it had hand holds along each side at the top. With that deck layout you have you are going to have to move past that dodger to go to the mast and a strong frame with exterior handholds are going to be vital.


Lazy jacks are the 'partially' part of partially installed. I decided on four lines and need to work out how best to do that. Anyone have a link for that?

Top flaps and zipper are in and flaps are visible in folded out photo above; zipper is covered by material for UV protection which is why you can't see them (you can see small black bits of web strapping I've sewn to the ends).

Thanks for the suggestions on the dodger, boys, but the material is cut and the project 70% completed. I decided it would be cheaper and easier to copy what I had but strengthen the frame with cockpit and side handholds.

By the way, I plan on using standard retail handrails like these so I can DIY the whole thing. I think these will work and look acceptable. I'll bend them slightly to keep in line with frame and may need to grind a few corners off the bases for neatness: www.whitworths.com.au/oceansouth-stainless-steel-handrail?q=40786



Yes, Ramona, we've been moving past the side of the dodger for 3 years and grabbing the side of the flimsy dodger for support. Our hands wore the canvas and the frame wobbled disconcertingly. Sailing my mate's Tartan 37 with what looks like an Iverson dodger with aft and side handholds was a revelation. Will definitely be putting in additional struts aft to the coaming from the main frame. I think struts forward above the companionway is overkill in this case.

It'll be interesting to see how it all turns out. My guess is functional and acceptable to the eye but not to the level of a pro at a third of the price and a crapload of hours.

DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
1 Aug 2015 1:21PM
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samsturdy said..

Good job DrRog. Now this is a job coming up for us. The Missus wants to make a stack pack before the end of the year.
Why did you choose WeatherMax over Sunbrella??. And is your mainsail loose footed like mine??. How did you attach your
Lazy Jack lines to the stack pack?? I'm considering zipping my stack pack around the mast. Sorry about all the questions
but the info will really help us.


Nope, I have foot of the main in slot along the boom; cover has slugs alternating with sail slugs.

Attachment. This is just what I did. I used 1" PVC tubing. Drilled holes through tubing horizontally and burned holes in material. Reinforced that with seatbelt webbing (Spotlight is your friend) with holes punched into that using an eyelet punch which I heated so it would seal the webbing when punching the hole. In retrospect I would have planned this ahead and sewn the holes in before I'd stitched closed the material to form the tube for the PVC (once I'd done that I could not reinforce the holes in the material with stitching.

I didn't take a pic but you can kind of see it here:



Sam, I bought a hot knife from Ebay and it really came into its own in this project - cuts and seals the material so you get no fraying.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HOT-KNIFE-ROPE-CUTTER-FOR-CUTTING-ROPE-AND-WEBBING-/260877403422

Mast: Most I've seen have a couple of velcro / buckled straps from the pack around the mast and then a separate section to go around the mast when not sailing. This section protects the ropes etc from UV and also stops strong winds getting inside the front of the flaked sail, I assume.

WeatherMax over Sunbrella: I can't say exactly. I read a bunch of forums and opinions. It was unclear - there are differing views and it was hard to find any real data since it's relatively new. It's cheaper and easier to handle and I'm just hoping it will last.

I'm no expert - it's all new to me. But if I can help in any way, feel free to PM me and we can chat. At least you can learn from my mistakes!

DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
1 Aug 2015 1:22PM
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HG02 said..
Nice Job Dr Rog looking forward to the stainless bending photos.. Could I ask what wall thickness tube you use Dr Rog



No.

Frankly? I have no idea. It's heavy.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
1 Aug 2015 1:24PM
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DrRog said..

HG02 said..
Nice Job Dr Rog looking forward to the stainless bending photos.. Could I ask what wall thickness tube you use Dr Rog




No.

Frankly? I have no idea. It's heavy.


samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
1 Aug 2015 4:17PM
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Thanks DrRog that's great info. Missus says she would rather use Sunbrella, and she also will be making it on
a domestic sewing machine. Thanks for the tips.

HG02
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1 Aug 2015 6:14PM
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Thanks DrRog that's great info. Missus says she would rather use Sunbrella, and she also will be making it on
a domestic sewing machine. Thanks for the tips.




whats her address Samsturdy Ill send up my measurements for mine

Bought a pack of solid Bamboo flooring from bunning to make my fridge bench top $37 a square meter $ 58 pack should have some spare left over .
Every thing else I looked at was going to be at least $300 plus
The bamboo I can do it all my self





Similar to this image looks a bit better than this though .should be hard wearing , lite and water proof Il fix it to some marine ply then cut it to size



DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
1 Aug 2015 7:05PM
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Similar to this image looks a bit better than this though .should be hard wearing , lite and water proof Il fix it to some marine ply then cut it to size




Where did you hear would be water proof?

HG02
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1 Aug 2015 7:35PM
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HG02 said..


Similar to this image looks a bit better than this though .should be hard wearing , lite and water proof Il fix it to some marine ply then cut it to size




Where did you hear would be water proof?



solid bamboo Dr Rog
most other similar flooring is a laminate of MDF or some thing similar Ill seal it up its on the fridge side . The sink/stove is stainless steel sheet still has its plastic protective cover on it.
Not much to loose @$58 except some time in a year or so if it wont work out

Ill see how it goes DR Rog But I intend to seal it up before I'm finished with it it will be glued down on to marine ply and then Ill cut out the fridge cut outs and seal the edges with epoxy and and paint









HG02
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1 Aug 2015 7:46PM
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DrRog said..

HG02 said..


Similar to this image looks a bit better than this though .should be hard wearing , lite and water proof Il fix it to some marine ply then cut it to size




Where did you hear would be water proof?


your right its not water proof Ill seal it best I can DR Rog

Guitz
VIC, 611 posts
1 Aug 2015 8:29PM
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In two weeks time I'm taking Warana out for a good clean up and paint and a good look over to see what needs doing for a future maintenance schedule. To prepare I'm removing a lot of the gear that ins presently on board. As it was a reasonably high tide i checked the depth at the end of Camerons Bight Jetty. There was about a foot under the keel at height tide so gave it a go.
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...even managed to get some help from two of my boys to get the gear into the trailer
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Said hi to your boat HG02 as I made my way back to the mooring
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cisco
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1 Aug 2015 9:48PM
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DrRog said..

Nope, I have foot of the main in slot along the boom; cover has slugs alternating with sail slugs.







That is an excellent way of attaching the boom bag. I am surprised it is not seen more often.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
1 Aug 2015 11:08PM
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DrRog said..
Finally got the stack pack finished and partially installed it today. Been doing A LOT of sewing lately; have quite enjoyed it as a winter project and learned a lot.

Material is WeatherMax rather than Sunbrella. I'm hoping it will last well; we'll see. Easier to manage in construction. Thread is UV resistant; I could only get white which meant I had to be very careful as all the errors are so visible. In the end I did this project with my wife's Janome home machine. I would have preferred an industrial grade machine but was being very cheap.










Next is the dodger replacement; a much trickier project because it is more 3D than the relatively flat stack pack. Took it to the boat to check I'm in the ballpark. Going to be a bit tricky and I'll need a little luck as well to get it right first time.I'm replacing all the fasteners so if I do those last I can adjust slightly if it's not exactly as it was (I used the old dodger as the pattern).

I'm ditching the old frame and building a 1" stainless tubing frame with hand holds on the sides and across the cockpit.



Whadya think of my dodger cover? I reckon it'll be good for night sailing - I won't have to worry about all those pesky nav lights ahead of me.

Finally, I'll need to eradicate all the seagulls in Double Bay.







Good job DrRog. Now this is a job coming up for us. The Missus wants to make a stack pack before the end of the year.
Why did you choose WeatherMax over Sunbrella??. And is your mainsail loose footed like mine??. How did you attach your
Lazy Jack lines to the stack pack?? I'm considering zipping my stack pack around the mast. Sorry about all the questions
but the info will really help us.


I forgot to press the post button before yes you have done a great job Dr Rog That stack pack is awesome . Good luck with the rest of the project

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
1 Aug 2015 11:10PM
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Said hi to your boat HG02 as I made my way back to the mooring

Sorry I miss you Gultz had some cleaning up at home after doing much the same as you before I left to take her down there

DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
1 Aug 2015 11:30PM
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your right its not water proof Ill seal it best I can DR Rog


As you say, not much to lose. It will be interesting to see how it goes. It's a nice looking 'timber' - we have it on our floor.

HG02
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2 Aug 2015 12:53AM
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DrRog said..

HG02 said..


your right its not water proof Ill seal it best I can DR Rog



As you say, not much to lose. It will be interesting to see how it goes. It's a nice looking 'timber' - we have it on our floor.


Been thinking of clipping it together and laying a light layer of glass mat and epoxy and sealing the back that way or epoxying it to some marine ply.
then a flow coat of epoxy over the top

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
2 Aug 2015 11:26AM
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DrRog. Do your lazy jack lines run through blocks on the mast or on the spreaders. If the latter, how far from the mast are the blocks??.

DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
2 Aug 2015 6:18PM
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DrRog. Do your lazy jack lines run through blocks on the mast or on the spreaders. If the latter, how far from the mast are the blocks??.


Mine I think are on the (top) spreaders but right next to the mast. My mast may be about 15cm wide? But just 'cause mine are there doesn't mean it's correct, Sam. I just let the rigger do it. I thought he was going to put them further apart but... dunno.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
3 Aug 2015 10:28AM
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Thanks DrRog. The boat next to me has the blocks on the mast and the owner says he has to ease the lazy jacks so that
the mainsail will form its proper shape. A boat a little further away has his blocks out on the spreader and with the extra width
created doesn't need to do that, so I'm seriously considering putting my blocks on the spreader, but hey.....any info is
better than none.



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