You guys say you're all about ripping and performance but you're not on one of these yet so how can I take you seriously?
'Zat who you work for CMC?
I'd post pics of my boards/shaper but I value my anonymity and it'd give me away. You internet-know him CMC, he's active on various forums.
last call. i reckon 50% of sup pers have been or still are short board surfers.
so even thou they sup, they know the ins and outs of short board surfing
personally been surfing for over thirty five years. i'm fit and flexible, probably way above the average person my age. in other words still very capable of holding my own on a short board.
its hard to take legion and doggie seriously when
a -they talk down to a lot of us like we wouldn't know or couldn't surf a short board. like we only started surfing when sups came out- all sup per are surfing idiots mentality
b they haven't given sups a decent fair go. not i had a go one time.
i'm talking a proper amount of time.
c how can you really give an informed opinion unless you do point b
d you don't like it that people don't see short boarding as the peak of surfing any more and that makes you feel uneasy, hence, attack is the best defence .
enough already
Sups are normally ridden by kiters who don't know how to generate there own speed on wave without 40 knots of wind or 5inches of epoxy below em (with a paddle stick for good measure). If you'd ever ridden a shorty in good surf or a longboard in bad surf why would you ever bother with one of those oversized oceanliners. Camper than Carson himself (not that there's anything wrong with it....thanks Jerry Seinfeld)
Well there's a whole new world waiting Lacey,just drop the paddle and give it a real go on a hp you'll love it.
Just to throw some acid on the fire here with the Mal argument.
Before I started to ride SUP I had a couple of different Mals, a highly rockered HP Brothers Neilsen 9'2 and a very beautiful Classic Mal full log Volane, trim lap pinlined amazing creation that Peter White shaped for me. I rode them quite a lot when the waves were small or average.
Once I got a SUP though I didn't ride them anymore. Not to offend but the Mals kind of provided no challenge. Easy to catch waves, stable, turn well etc and do everything they are meant to do. I found SUP very challenging. That year also there was a bank way out in the middle of the Alley that broke kind of randomly at 5 or so feet that was so much fun. Nobody was surfing it, too hard to read and better waves closer to the rock and at Laceys. You could take the bumpy drop and ride it to the sand. It was a new thing, I kind of got hooked on SUP on that one bank. Here I was surfing alone at the Gold Coasts most crowded break. (Note, very different now)
I sold both Mals, still regret the Classic Mal though.
In the last couple of days I have been riding a 9'1 Mal ex pro board, high performance I guess you'd say. It's great fun and I am a bit sore from a bit of training this week so absolutely perfect for the swell we have had. But in my very honest opinion it is not as high performance as my 8'11 SUP. It may have something to do with the ultra light weight of the SUP and being able to use the paddle but the SUP is way closer to riding a shortboard IMHO. Should probably note that this board is a local custom that is shaped by a shortboard shaper. I'm sure that will impress you all. I'm sure that if I spend more time on the Mal I will be able to achieve more but it was an interesting revelation for me comparing it to the SUP.
Over Summer I will probably ride the Mal a whole lot more, I end up paddling things so much for training that the last thing I want to do in the surf as well is hold a paddle.
Why not do it all.
I surf, SUP, Kite, fish, do the clubbie thing with my daughter and Sail (a mates boat ) I love it all.
I can get out in 1 foot onshore slop and have a ball.
I can get out in 6 foot glass and have a ball.
I can get out when its flat.
I can get out when its flat and windy.
I can get out when its flat windy and big swell.
Isn't getting out what its all about?
In 33 years of being on the water all over the world in a variety of craft the only people i hear moan are shortboarders.
They moan about boogers, they moan about goat boats and now they're moaning about SUP
Why is that am i missing something?
And also I'd like to extend a sincere apology to all involved in the over weigh argument. I didn't mean to hijack the thread to such an extent, if it turns out my comment about fat old blokes was the cause of that. My apologies.
Legion I normally laugh at your posts and also agree with what your saying,however not on this one,ride what suites the conditions.
Nothing worse than an aggro shortboarder pumping sh-t on a gutless wave,nothing worse than a greedy sup'er stealing all the waves ( don't see too many when its over 2 foot )
Who really gives a sh-t,ride them all and enjoy the ride.