I heard the previews and decided to watch Bear Grills. I've helped slaughter a few cattle but kicking and then using a blunt knife to hack at a beast is not right.
Aaaah.
A bespectacled man once said: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
Note that the above is intended to relate to Australia as much as Indo (they're originally our animals after all).
Ban live exports and keep the process, value adding, jobs and money in Australia Mate!
Yeah some of the images were pretty disgusting. Reminded me of the footage that hit the media many years back where a kid out hunting with his dad was filmed using a live kangaroo/joey as a football and slinging it against the side of the car for fun.
Bear Grylls eating raw goats' testicals really wasn't much better I might add 
I watched the program and found it hugely distressing. 
We have absolutely no right at all to subject any animal to unnecessary suffering or distress either in the caring for the animal during it's lifetime or in ending it's life when that is necessary.
The fact that this needless and barbaric procedure is deemed necessary to comply with their crackpot religion makes it even more infuriating.
The interviewer kept asking why Australia doesn't stop sending cattle to Indonesia.
The answer to that (and I don't know why no-one said it), is because once we stop sending cattle there then we cease to have any input into how the procedure is conducted. The cattle will just be sourced from somewhere else, most likely Brazil, who don't care much how the cattle are treated, and the barbaric procedures will continue on forever.
However, the procedures shown have to be stopped.
While we export cattle into Indonesia we have some chance of achieving this.
Hopefully if this program is widely publicesd, particularly in Indonesia, we will be a bit closer to achieving that.
Smuggle drugs in a boogie board cover, get a life sentence. Torture animals. Get a slaap on the wrist no doubt.
I dont know what I found more distressing, the cow with it's head 3/4 decapitated tried to get up and run away or the one that had to watch 4 others be butchered and was quaking with terror.
Pweedas Just because one place closed down doesn't mean it has stopped...it looked like all of the places they visited had issues. I cant belive they have been trying for 11 years to stop this tuff.
I reckon we should just export beef to them and wack a halal sticker on the packet. cost of making the halal meat, 1c halal sticker.
i dont have a problem killing with a knife, AS LONG AS IT IS DONE RIGHT! Problem is it isnt. Im not buying any until its sorted, and im betting theres plenty more that wont as well.
I didn't see the program, but from the above comments sounds horrific! As pweedas said, there must be a way to improve the treatment of the animals whilst we still supply the 'product'? It also sounds like a very inefficient way to kill a beast...educate the countries to show them that they can make money first by being 'more efficient' in their practices, whilst attempting to educate them on humane treatment of the animals.
We 'mainly' (can't say only, just what we keep at home) eat meat from family's/friend's properties...and we get involved in the process. The butchers used always treat the animals with as much dignity as is possible in that situation.
This practice may stem from the belief that humans are somehow a special life form. We might be a little smarter than the next one but it is a continuum.
I was in NZ once and commended a farmer on his memory of past seasons, good crops bad droughts etc. He said that's nothing compared to cows.
Day before Xmas 3 yrs ago he decided to shift the cattle to the greener, lower paddock. Big paddocks over there, took him 3 days to round them up. Next year, the day before xmas it only took him 1 day to round them up.
The next year they were waiting at the gate.
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We treat all animals like sh!t.
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Its fully disturbing but real.
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there's one major flaw in these religious manuals, they didn't build in an update system, what worked a thousand years ago doesn't apply in today's society
This topic came up a couple of years ago. I think it was animals being slaughtered in Saudi. They would slash the cow's eyes and blind them. Once they can't see the cattle quiet down and they can be managed more easily.
At risk of being branded a racist, I find religions in general to be offensive.
I can understand people taking comfort in having faith in some sort of deity or ideology.
I feel no sympathy for religions if they require you to:
- wear a special hat
- wear special clothes
- wear your hair in a special way (head or facial)
- remove parts of your body (unless there is a demonstrable medical or hygiene reason to do it)
- eat/not eat any foods for any other than nutrition and hygiene reason
- prepare foods in a ceremonial way (unless it is for hygiene reasons, or possibly, a philosophical reason to improve the treatment of animals. Maybe a ceremony requiring the people to appreciate the fact that animals are being killed or people are working hard to provide the food. Definitely not something requiring stuff be done to the animal or food.)
- get pregnant every time you have sex.
- forgo routine, mundane life saving medical interventions
- anything else that gives me the sh.ts
I didn't see the program but I'm guessing it's the same as this video for anyone else who missed it. The video starts with the Western bolt gun kill, then the Islam way..
I grew up on Farms and have seen many animals killed. Saying that the above video shocks me so much that I had to turn it off.
Can anyone actually explain the religious benefit or why this is necessary for animals to be killed in such a way when there are clearly more humane ways to do it???
I'm off to search google, if I find anything useful I will post the links here.
