Could not watch it too! I wish I could be vegetarian but I am weak and love meat too much, I do a fair bit of clay shooting but could never go and join the boys for a fox or rabbit hunt........... not even going close to roos or pigs.
I choose the hypocritical solution and believe that meat is just a product that grows on the butcher's shelves.
Here is some info from the other side of the equation: The Non Western side.
www.mustaqim.co.uk/halal.htm
This same spiel is repeated across most Muslim sites.
If you read it what do you think??
I love this thread
Westerners are so self fkn righteous.
We never ever do anything inhumane to animals.
Agree - its a good list.
Going but what most relic religions enspouse, it would seem that god(s) is quite primitive.....
Any one see Futurama the other night? Very good take on religion.
Bender meets God, after first experiencing what its like to be a god to some miniture like people, very funny episode.
Bender asks to be sent back to Earth and god goes "where's that?".
I went and seen a NoFx show in Brisbane.
At the end of the gig they did the strangest cabaret, musical dance number. If you're familiar with them they are not exactly a dance, cabaret band.
Anyway the theme to their song was "Everyone's a little bit racist and the sooner we all realise it the sooner we can start to get along"
They had Mexicans, Blacks, Jews etc etc all calling each other names and hugging. It was funny but I think it has some significance to this topic.
I don't agree with killing animals this way and I fully agree with Pweedas. That's intelligence at work right there. Acknowledge why it occurs and but then make it relevant to the present day. Halal and Kosher slaughter has obviously failed to modernise.
Either way there's no need to make this a racial topic where we make it about hating Muslims. Hate breeds hate. There's enough Propoganda and extremist Christians and Muslims in the world already.
Signed the Half Irish, Catholic white guy.
I love animals too - bar-b-qued mainly .
I hunt, and I love eating meat. I'll shoot ANY feral animals on sight. I shoot roos, but only enough for my and my family and friends' consumption. I'm looking forward to my 1st camel hunt. Goat, camel and roo meats are each really nice eating.
However, I and all the hunters I know abhor cruelty to animals. We shoot head shots only - 1 shot, instant kill, and that goes for the ferals as much as roos! (If you think I'm not that good a shot, volunteer to prove it one night. How about you barn? ) I know 3 full time professional shooters, and they're the same. My religious beliefs don't preclude me from hunting or eating meat, but unmitigated cruelty is unequivocally out! I've killed and butchered scores (could even be hundreds by now) of animals, but my gut is as disturbed by Muslim barbarity and any other animal cruelty as much as yours.
EDIT: On a different note, the Jews do (or so my Jewish friend says) stun or in some other way " anaesthetise" their animals before their kosher slaughter. She's not sure how they do it.
As I said I like shooting but never shot anything alive as I do not enjoy hunting. But if my life depended on shooting (for food or defend myself or family) I tend to believe I would squeeze the trigger.
I did see the tail end of it and that was pretty bad. Initially I thought the same as probably most people - we should ban live export and I agree there's a good case for that.
But after a while, I came to the same conclusion as pweedas - ban exports and we lose any chance to change things. We'll be able to be smug and say our livestock isn't being killed that way but livestock will still be killed that way. As it is, our exporters are putting pressure on to get things changed. They claim things used to be even worse (and I don't doubt them). So you gotta ask yourself - do you want to be smug or do you want livestock to be handled humanely?
I've seen another doco of the deed being done here in Aus according to halal requirements. Here the livestock is stunned and the workers have got 30 seconds to do the deed. Also, livestock are penned separately and only come into the slaughter room when their numbers up, getting stunned along the way.
I only caught a bit of it. That cow at the end trembling as his mates were tortured made me feel sick all day - I still feel sick. May even turn vegetarian for a few days.
Stupid Indonesia, just another reason to never go there.