Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.
In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.
So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.
Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed
'Your' what?
Select to expand quotePugwash said..japie said..Harrow said..japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.
460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.
Looks pretty straight forward to me.
Yikes
I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?
456
www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen
TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!
Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.
The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.
RIP
Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover
EDIT
It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format
IanR...did you realise how foolish you made yourself look by posting that, so you deleted it?
All of you dumb people mentioning Ivermectin as cattle/livestock grade...you are the foolish ones.
Its been around since the 1970s and has been developed for use in humans almost as long.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
Proc Jpn Acad Ser B Phys Biol Sci. 2011 Feb 10; 87(2): 13-28.
Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use.
Select to expand quotePugwash said..psychojoe said..
One of the school dads copped appendicitis after his second jab. He and his wife had no idea that there was a plausible correlation. Three days in hospital. Just quietly, it's one of the most common severe adverse events with 7/2,000 in the adult age group in the (presumably biased) RCT.
What does informed consent mean?
Bugger... lucky the appendix is only for the bits that don't belong in the main body
On the plus side, a new compensation scheme has been promulgated that could see him receiving up to $5,000 of our collective hard-earned for his troubles
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.
In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.
So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.
Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!
more hair splitting
I hope you realize Im NOT trying to convince you to get the jab. Being an antivaxer is your right, please stick to your principles.
I think main land Australia will be better off now that you are stuck out in the middle of nowhere on detention island, for the rest of your life never to leave.
Can you even get the vax out there yet?
Its not a pandemic that the majority of Aussies are worried about,
its now more of a pandemic for the antivaxers.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed
'Your' what?
We'll all accept your superior spelling when we see you referring to your 'phone use. Ignorant people who don't realise the importance of the apostrophe that signifies the deleted letters are clearly incapable of cogent thoughts.
So, this is what the inventor of mRNA therapies has to say about the current state of the vaccines...
mobile.twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1431659022403395592
But he's obviously a conspiracy nut, right?
Select to expand quoteAnd or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
Yes
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..kiterboy said..lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.
In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.
So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.
Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!more hair splitting
I hope you realize Im NOT trying to convince you to get the jab. Being an antivaxer is your right, please stick to your principles.
I think main land Australia will be better off now that you are stuck out in the middle of nowhere on detention island, for the rest of your life never to leave.
Can you even get the vax out there yet?
Where's the hair splitting on my part?
Stick to your principles, people who don't get the flu shot are antivaxxers according to your definition.
You can't have it one way and not the other, no matter how deluded you are.
Select to expand quotejapie said..Pugwash said..japie said..Harrow said..japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.
460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.
Looks pretty straight forward to me.
Yikes
I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?
456
www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen
TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!
Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.
The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.
RIP
Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover
EDIT
It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format
OK... so we agree the TGA is the source of info... The TGA does, however, have a different way of presenting its data than the method you use. The TGA investigates the reported reactions, then reports numbers, rather than simply pulling total and unsubstantiated data...
Think I'll go with the TGA, not Japie... Soz...Select to expand quoteThe TGA said..
Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 22 August 2021, over 17.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given. So far, the TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were linked to immunisation from 476 reports received and reviewed. These deaths occurred after the first dose of the Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) vaccine - 6 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)
If you are happy to rely on their data, surely you'll be happy to rely on their informed treatment of their data.
Source: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..kiterboy said..lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed
'Your' what?
We'll all accept your superior spelling when we see you referring to your 'phone use. Ignorant people who don't realise the importance of the apostrophe that signifies the deleted letters are clearly incapable of cogent thoughts.
Did you even go to school?
If you don't understand their use, don't project your ignorance onto others.
Select to expand quotejapie said..Pugwash said..japie said..Harrow said..japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.
460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.
Looks pretty straight forward to me.
Yikes
I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?
456
www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen
TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!
Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.
The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.
RIP
Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover
EDIT
It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format
That site clearly says that "an adverse event report does not mean that the medicine is the cause of the adverse event"
I'll bet that the vast preponderance of deaths associated with the vaccines were frail people in nursing homes that had quite a high chance of dying on any given day.
Select to expand quoteairsail said..And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
Yes
That's nice.
Hear that everyone?
Airhead want everyone who doesn't get the flu shot to be excluded from all venues and travelling.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..lotofwind said..kiterboy said..lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.
In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.
So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.
Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!more hair splitting
I hope you realize Im NOT trying to convince you to get the jab. Being an antivaxer is your right, please stick to your principles.
I think main land Australia will be better off now that you are stuck out in the middle of nowhere on detention island, for the rest of your life never to leave.
Can you even get the vax out there yet?
Where's the hair splitting on my part?
Stick to your principles, people who don't get the flu shot are antivaxxers according to your definition.
You can't have it one way and not the other, no matter how deluded you are.
Yes, that is 100% right, glad you can finally see it.
You know you have made the wrong decision when Pauline Hanson has now joined the antivaxers fight, lol,
Now the queen of the nut jobs is getting vocal, the few antivaxers will probly get the jab now that shes involved.
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..
I'll bet that the vast preponderance of deaths associated with the vaccines were frail people in nursing homes that had quite a high chance of dying on any given day.
Wow. But you balk at the same statement being made in light of covid...
Old person dies after getting the 'vaccine' (maybe not from it): "Meh, they could have died at any moment"
Old person dies with covid (maybe not from it): "STRING UP ALL THE ANTI-VAXXERS!!!"
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..kiterboy said..lotofwind said..kiterboy said..lotofwind said..
ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.
In desperation of what?
I'm not the one accepting experimental treatments.
So to your definition of not being fully vaxed...you are now calling people who don't get the yearly flu shot as anti-vaxers then.
Do you also wish that those people would get the flu and die?
And or should be excluded from all venues and travelling?
They are anti-vaxxers after all according to your definition.
People who don't get the flu shot could pass it onto someone vulnerable who could die!more hair splitting
I hope you realize Im NOT trying to convince you to get the jab. Being an antivaxer is your right, please stick to your principles.
I think main land Australia will be better off now that you are stuck out in the middle of nowhere on detention island, for the rest of your life never to leave.
Can you even get the vax out there yet?
Where's the hair splitting on my part?
Stick to your principles, people who don't get the flu shot are antivaxxers according to your definition.
You can't have it one way and not the other, no matter how deluded you are.
Yes, that is 100% right, glad you can finally see it.
So you also support the barring from travel and public venues, those who don't get the yearly flu shot.
Nice to know. Speaks volumes on your lack of intelligence.
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Dry your eyes kitekid, mummy's here to give you a kiss. lol
It's a nice thought, but she doesn't kiss as good as your mum.
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Thats not what your dad said
Yeah, but he prefers redheads. But he did also say you were tighter.
Select to expand quotePugwash said..
OK... so we agree the TGA is the source of info...
I haven't done my own research, only read the data from Japie and the above, which doesn't seem to make sense ......unless .....
....that data be interpreted as :
TGA received 49,082 reports of which death was reported in 462.
So far they have investigated 476 of those and found 7 deaths were likely due to immunisation.
So -
....extrapolate those stats out and 462 from 49,082 is statistically quite plausible.
Yes I know, I shouldnt of answered kitekids question and started this display of intelligent conversation
, sorry everyone, I promise not to get him all excited again.
When HW died THEY said it was because the elites could moderate Shooting the Breeze but THEY couldn't moderate HW.
I am starting to beLIEve THEY were lying to us.
And if THEY were lying about that what else are they lying about eh, eh ??????
Do your own research, even a child can see that.
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Yes I know, I shouldnt of answered kitekids question and started this display of intelligent conversation, sorry everyone, I promise not to get him all excited again.
That's the problem though.
You always start it ridiculousness.
I'd think you were getting sick of losing, but I know you're just addicted to salt. You really must love the taste of your own tears.
Sorry to interrupt the love-in but it looks like Ronapreve is on the way in.
www.thepharmaletter.com/article/roche-progresses-ronapreve-approval-in-australia
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..
When HW died THEY said it was because the elites could moderate Shooting the Breeze but THEY couldn't moderate HW.
I am starting to beLIEve THEY were lying to us.
The seabreeze government (Laurie) is controlling us, he invent the covid fake disease because he wanted us to talk about something else cause he was sick of the bitcoin scam thread. Totalitarian control ??? Its terrifying, scary and horrific and if you cant see that you are just one of Lauries sheep
Select to expand quotePugwash said..japie said..Pugwash said..japie said..Harrow said..japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.
460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.
Looks pretty straight forward to me.
Yikes
I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?
456
www.tga.gov.au/database-adverse-event-notifications-daen
TGA has 338 adverse reactions: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
That's a LOT different to 460 deaths!!
Go to the website in the link I posted. Search for Covid under medicines and select all four vaccines. Enter the dates and wait for ages.
The screen shot below is the result I got twenty minutes ago after waiting nearly and hour. You will notice that the 456 deaths I quoted yesterday has crept up to 462.
RIP
Adverse events 48374. Hopefully they will recover
EDIT
It also lists below the summary all of the reports in spreadsheet format
OK... so we agree the TGA is the source of info... The TGA does, however, have a different way of presenting its data than the method you use. The TGA investigates the reported reactions, then reports numbers, rather than simply pulling total and unsubstantiated data...
Think I'll go with the TGA, not Japie... Soz...The TGA said..
Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 22 August 2021, over 17.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given. So far, the TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were linked to immunisation from 476 reports received and reviewed. These deaths occurred after the first dose of the Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) vaccine - 6 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)
If you are happy to rely on their data, surely you'll be happy to rely on their informed treatment of their data.
Source: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021
Convoluted logic. It is not their data. It is their data system.
If anything it should be shrieking and clanging warning bells. 462 souls carked it after having the vaccine, 48000 injured and they put a report together telling us that 7 were linked to immunisation?
Same thing in the UK, Europe and the USA. I don't know about here but I know as sure as little green apples that there are virtually no post mortems done in the UK.
They will do anything to try to keep the narrative from falling apart. I am certainly not happy to rely on "their informed treatment of THE data". Far from it. All that it achieves for me is reinforcing a profound distrust of anything they have to offer.
I take my advice from people I trust and who have the balls to stand up and offer informed criticism based on demonstrated experience. Mike Yeadon is one of those people. He worked for Pfizer for a long time in an elevated position. Made a lot of money developing medicines and had absolutely zero to gain by speaking out. Made lots of enemies in fact. How about you have a listen to what he has to say in this excerpt and compare it to the pigswill that the mainstream and government health spokespeople have had to offer.
Starts at 30 minutes in: www.ukcolumn.org/video/doctors-for-covid-ethics-symposium-session-3-first-do-no-harm
