Vaccine who has it who hasn't who won't?

Virgin proposal to mandate vaccination for all staff, more and more companies heading down this path.
From now on it is no longer called the dole queue, rather the unvaxed herd.

That vaccine mandate seems a bit unfair. Maybe it should be vaccination OR ivermectin.

NSW

16,000 active cases. 800 in hospital. 120 in ICU. 80 on ventilators.

5% chance of requiring hospital. If just half of just Sydney catches it, that's 125,000 people requiring a hospital.

0.7% requiring ICU is about 35,000 people in the same scenario.

yikes : |

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Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..

Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..

Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..

Mr Milk said..

Pugwash said..

I read Ivermectin has been loaded with 5G microchips to make sure the distribution is completed.

So when all the farmyard animals go on line it will sound just like a dial up modem connecting

Said the farmyard animal.

Baaaaaahhhhh baaaaahhhh baaaaahhhhh.

Ivermectin. . . for sheep

Ba Ba guinea pig, you know you are a fool,
Yes sir yes sir, jab my arm full
One for disaster, one for the inane
One for the trial rat who really is insane.

Oh, I love your nursery rhyme. It's very funny. It could be better though. Perhaps you can make a tiktok of you singing it? Maybe with some dance along moves?

I knew you'd love it, I wrote it for simple-minded children.

Such quality can only come from first-hand experience.

How's the TikTok coming along?

Really good, your mum is performing really well. We're gonna perform it on her onlyfans.

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japie said..

evlPanda said..

You will still catch COVID while immunised, however you are highly likely have only minor symptoms, if any. The viral load you are carrying and shedding (urgh; that term) will be the same as a non-vaccinated, contagious person, however for a much shorter period of time. So, overall you are far less contagious if/when you catch it being immunised, but contagious nonetheless.

Seriously Evil! How on earth can anyone possibly know that?

For starters it is an established fact that people have caught Covid and not realised they have had it. If they'd been vaccinated? What then? Would their state of well being have reached euphoria?

Its a logical fallacy to say that the symptoms will be reduced because it it is impossible to quantify what the symptoms would have been.

This is yet another example of the pharmacological doublespeak used to convince people.

You're right but also completely wrong; the worst kind.

With a small sample size, sure, we can't know if an individual has milder symptoms because of the vaccine, or not. You are absolutely correct. Of course!

But with larger sample sizes a pattern can become obvious. We have an enormous sample size to work with.

e.g. is this coin biased towards heads or tails? With one or two coin flips nobody could possibly know that. But with hundreds of millions of flips any bias would become clear.

This is something called "statistics". Yes, it is sometimes dubious, but not when the results are so conclusive. And on the larger set of data you are incorrect. We can know, the same way we can't know about one coin flip, but we can know about millions of coin flips.

aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/670028/20210812-Monitor-COVID19-vaccines-cases-and-variants.pdf

Vaccines are effective against hospitalisation about 80%, and against death 90%.

Delta, and even newer variants, will very likely reduce this effectiveness somewhat. Nonetheless the vaccine will be > 0% effective.

I can only imagine the anxiety amongst the anti vaxxers, waiting for the announcement of V Day (Vaccination Day) or D Day (Disappoint Day) when their "freedom" will be seriously curtailed. If you can do one thing please, save your ranting and abuse for the 3 bouncers at the pub, not the part time 16yo girl at the local bakery. "We the Sheeple" would appreciate it. Ta.

The term 'anti vaxxer' gets bandied around here a lot.

Would anyone care to clearly define what an 'anti vaxxer' is?

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Harrow said..

japie said..
Well unless the Rona picks it's game up the vaccines are going to win the mortality race.

460 odd dead from the death shot with only 30% vaccinated versus an almost two year total of 999 for the Rona.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yikes

I found a reference for 7 deaths, where does the 460 come from?

It's green apple splatters from the back end of a male bovine.

This link might be useful: www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-26-08-2021

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lotofwind said..
Of those 7 deaths, 6 of them were elderly over 60 years old, so going by the antivaxers veiw point, they dont matter cause they are old anyway.

Yes, sadly that seems to be what they believe.

What's the definition of an antivaxer?

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kiterboy said..
What's the definition of an antivaxer?

Anti-vaxxer" refers to people who disagree with the use of vaccines for a variety of reasons. For example, some view vaccines as an infringement on their human rights.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/anti-vaxxer

Do we have to do everything for you kitekid, didn't you go to school?

So you exaggerated the number to try make it sound more scary.

I thought you said you dont read or believe any statistics from any of the government sites as they are not correct and cant be trusted ?

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Mr Milk said..
That vaccine mandate seems a bit unfair. Maybe it should be vaccination OR ivermectin.

You are making too much common sense .

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airsail said..

kiterboy said..
What's the definition of an antivaxer?

Anti-vaxxer" refers to people who disagree with the use of vaccines for a variety of reasons. For example, some view vaccines as an infringement on their human rights.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/anti-vaxxer

Do we have to do everything for you kitekid, didn't you go to school?

Thanks airhead.

So the question has to be asked, why are you calling people on here who are fully vaccinated, anti-vaxxer because they don't want to have an experimental treatment injected into them?

ummmmmmm, because your not fully vaxed and are scared of and dont trust the vax.
But I think you are just splitting hairs now in desperation.